[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Ishvara-authored Srishti avidyākrta - Says Shankara

[Sujal Upadhyay]

Pranams,

Indeed this world is also asatya. The question is - does DSV needs to be
applied from individual consciousness or from collective consciousness.

If we take it from POV of individual consciousness, then for me things
become easy. When any object is not cognized, then for me it is
non-existent. Similarly for me, I see this whole world as per my own
vision. Other jIva-s do not matter to me. I cant see what others are seeing
or perceiving. In samAdhi, there is no creation as there is no mind. Hence
(for me), there is no creation, no jIva, nothing. When one feels unity with
Brahman, one still 'feels'. Hence 'I' exist. There are two tatva-s - 'I'
and 'Brahman', but not third. Beyond this feeling, there is just Brahman
and no individual 'I'.

Maybe, various statements from shruti and commentaries reflect various
states of consciousness.

OM

Sujal

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste,
>
> I have limited knowledge on this subject. From what I have heard, Buddhist
> version of asatkArya vAda says that cause transforms into effect and itself
> cease to exist. An example is milk transforming into curd. After Milk has
> transformed into curd, milk itself cease to exist. However, another opinion
> of asatkAryavAda is that it effect is not present in cause, whereas in
> satkAryavAda, effect has to be pre-existent in cause, else how would cause
> be able to create anything. For example, only milk can transform into curd
> as per satkAryavAda, whereas according to asatkAryavAda, curd can be formed
> from water or oil. mAyA has three guNa-s, hence everything it creates also
> has 3 guNa-s in different permutations and combinations. There is no 4th
> guNa inside mAyA.
>
> asatkArya vAda of vaiSeShika says that says that cause does not cease to
> exist after transforming into effect. So Buddhist theory of believing in
> demi-gods but not in supreme creator might get an explanation from
> asatkArya vAda. the SUNya vAda also gets support from asatkArya vAda.
>
> However if we take transformation as real, then Brahman will get divided,
> which is not acceptable. 1/4 part of Brahman will become void, SUNya.
>
> Maybe I am wrong, as said earlier, I dont have much knowledge on this
> subject. ​
>

> OM
>
> Sujal
>
>
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