[Advaita-l] Lower order GYAnI will be reborn?

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Sat Oct 1 05:36:36 CDT 2016

Namaste Sri Raghav Ji.

I had also mentioned that there are  advaitins who do not subscribe to the
view expressed by Swami Vidyaranya in JMV  (as understood and expressed by
me). It occured to me that your questionnaire would have been comprehensive
and complete if you could have added the following also.

.4. If indeed JMV mentions so, is it correct??

Thought I would bring it to your attention.


On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Pranams Swamiji
> there are many points you have raised in the ramana maharshi thread. in
> this particular mail i do not have much to add to what others have said on
> the matter.
> if its ok with you i will move very slowly and start with an area where i
> need a clarification from you.
> I want to restate what you wrote to check if i understand your words
> correctly. You are saying that -
> 1. There are GYAnI-s who are not jIvanmukta-s, for such GYAnI-s, their
> GYAna may be temporary and can 'fade away'. that is why sannyAsa is
> enjoined for GYAna-niShThA.
> 2. Such GYAnI-s who have not yet stabilized the GYAna i.e., they have not
> yet attained jIvanmukti - they do not attain 'emancipation' ie.,
> janmarAhityam (liberation from embodiment). They will have to be reborn
> again until their GYAna becomes dRDhaM.
> 3. Also when you talk of 'lower order GYAnI-s', i assume that even in their
> case,  you are referring to those who have arrived at  lakShyArtha of the
> mahAvAkya by shravaNam from a sAmpradAyavit teacher, by the word GYAnI.
> This entire question arose because i have read and heard about the
> alternative view attributed to JMV that all GYAnI-s who have not
> accomplished jIvanmukti, will still get liberation from embodiment upon
> death, although they may be suffer due to dvaita vasana-s in this life even
> after GYAna. This may well be a mis-reading of JMV but i wish that you
> share your understanding of this issue of the post-mortem fate of
> non-jIvanmukta GYAnI-s. I am reminded of bahunAm janmanAm ante GYAnavAn mAm
> prapadyate, the word GYAnavAn is commented as प्राप्तपरिपाकज्ञानः one who
> has attained matured knowledge.
> Om
> Raghav
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