[Advaita-l] Shruti prAmANya and jnAna

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste Praveenji,

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Praveen R. Bhat <bhatpraveen at gmail.com>
wrote:


> If the pramAta, pramANa and prameya, are appropriately aligned, knowledge
>> is automatically generated. Now, the pramAta may refuse to accept the
>> generated knowledge as pramA, or take efforts to preserve the knowledge
>> generated; however, the capacity of the pramANa to generate the jnAna
>> vritti is a given.
>>
>
> The answer, IMO, lies in the definition of pramAtR/ प्रमाता, else ज्ञान
> would arise even without साधनचातुष्टयसम्पत्ति। One of the qualifications is
> श्रद्धा, which although defined by तत्त्वबोध as गुरुवेदान्तवाक्येषु
> विश्वासः, its not just a belief. It has to grow into प्रामाण्यबुद्धि। For
> श्रवण to take place, there has to be तात्पर्यनिर्णय। Without that, ज्ञान
> cannot arise.
>
> Yes, unless the pramAta has the qualifications for knowledge, pramA will
not arise - some jnAna (even bhrama may arise). shruti prAmANya-buddhi must
also definitely be there. However,  even that prAmANya-buddhi is based on
certain basic axioms that need to be accepted for that prAmANya-buddhi to
arise. And I believe it is to cultivate a belief in these axioms that
shraddhA is talked about.

And even if some form of ज्ञानवृत्ति is formed, it is not अखण्ड। Further,
> as you say the person may reject it perhaps as भ्रम। At most it may become
> some kind of impression for स्मृति।
>
> I have to think about why you say the jnAna vritti is not akhaNda. Will
mull over it.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan


> gurupAdukAbhyAm,
> --Praveen R. Bhat
> /* Through what should one know That owing to which all this is known!
> [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
>
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