[Advaita-l] Fw: Fwd: Ramana Maharshi - Advaitin or Neo Advaitin?

Venkatesh Murthy vmurthy36 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 19 10:16:25 CDT 2016


Namaste Sri Sujal Mahodaya

The below explanation of Raghav Kumar Mahodaya is best explanation to
show Sandhyavandana is enough to give anyone Advaita Realization. Asau
Adityo Brahma and Brahmaivasmi are there. Meditating with Gayatri
Mantra is best because it has OM, it has Vyahrutis and the powerful
Savitr Mantra. What more do you want? Why run after some other
meditation?

Remember Sayana Bhashya is saying this about Sandhyavandana -

सायणभाष्यम् -

वेदनं प्रशंसति -
ब्रह्मैव सन्ब्रह्माप्येति य एवं वेद इति ।

यः पुमानादित्यो ब्रह्मेति वेद स पुमान्पूर्वमजानानोऽपि स्वय्ं वस्तुतः
ब्रह्मैव सन् प्राप्तवेदनात् अज्ञानापगमे सति स्वानुभवेनापि ब्रह्म
आप्नोति ।

'He who knows this Sun as Brahman is himself Brahman and attains
Brahman with his own
experience and with Ignorance destroyed even though he did not earlier
know this.'

Having got a Brahmin's life it is the best method to reach Brahman. I
heard from a very learned Vedic Pundit if we say the Gayatri once
perfectly it will give us Moksha. That is enough.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Raghav Kumar via Advaita-l
<advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> This is an old discussion i guess.
>
> I liked the following take which i heard from one shrotriya - well atleast
> he was teaching advaita siddhi to a few students. ;)
>
> He said that Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi was born a brahmin and had been
> initiated in to Gayatri and sandhya vandanam. In it are contained the
> sacred omkaara and the vyAhRti-s bhUH etc. As also the formal vedic
> initiation in to the  aikyAnusandhAnam viz., asAvAdityo brahma
> brahmaivAhamasmi.
>
> If the above aikyAnusandhAnam is not vedanta, thats news to me. In the
> Dialogues with the Guru also the same idea is expressed. The same Sun can
> be understood as just a ball of fire or as SaguNa brahman or nirguNa
> brahman based on the level of maturity. Since Bhagavan was an
> uttamAdhikArI, that omkara Gayatri japam with aikyAnusandhAnam was
> sufficient to trigger at the appropriate time the jnana vRtti.
>
> As for his pedagogy he may well have interacted with sAdhakas and shrotriya
> pandits and arrived at the best ways to teach those particular people who
> came to him requesting to be taught for example by translating Atmabodha,
> selected bhagavadgItA shlokas etc.
>
> There is no question of any divergence from the advaita tradition.
>
> Om
> Raghav
>
> On 19-Sep-2016 6:30 pm, "Kripa Shankar via Advaita-l" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>   Original Message
>> From: Kripa Shankar <kripa.shankar.0294 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday 19 September 2016 6:29 PM
>> To: Sujal Upadhyay via Advaita-l; advaita-l
>> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Ramana Maharshi - Advaitin or Neo Advaitin?
>>
>> Sorry about that. I have some issues with my phone.
>>>>   Original Message
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Kripa Shankar <kripa.shankar.0294 at gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 6:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Ramana Maharshi - Advaitin or Neo Advaitin?
>> To: Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Namaste Sujal
>>
>> ‎I had to quote from Wikipedia because there is no Ramana in any classical
>> texts nor does he belong to any lineage. We have to only believe what they
>> tell us. So Wikipedia is the pramana here :D ‎
>>
>> Original Message
>> From: Sujal Upadhyay
>> Sent: Monday 19 September 2016 5:52 PM
>> To: Kripa Shankar
>> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Ramana Maharshi - Advaitin or Neo Advaitin?
>>
>> Namaste Sri Kripa ji,
>>
>> To understand Sri Ramana Maharshi, please read
>>
>> 1. biography
>> 2. His teachings - Who Am I
>> 3. Sat darshan chalisi (40 verses on Reality)
>> 4. Sri Ramana Gita
>> 5. His recommendations were Ribhu Gita and other similar texts like Yoga
>> Vasistha
>> 6. Read his teachings i.e. Q and A published by various authors.
>>
>> As I have said, please do not build your judgement from wikipedia :)
>>
>> OM
>> Sujal
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Kripa Shankar <
>> kripa.shankar.0294 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Namaste Sujal ,
>>
>> ‎What is your comment on ‎ the Wikipedia passage that says Ramana's
>> teachings are different from Advaita
>>
>> Original Message
>> From: Sujal Upadhyay
>> Sent: Monday 19 September 2016 5:20 PM
>> To: Bhaskar YR; A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
>> Cc: Kripa Shankar
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