[Advaita-l] DSV in Vichara Sagara

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

Ajnaata Satta Theory in Vichara Sagara Page 221

अस्मिन् पक्षे पदार्थानामज्ञातसत्ता नास्ति । किन्तु ज्ञातसत्तैवास्ति ।
अद्वैतवादेऽयमेव सिद्धान्तपक्ष: । अस्मिन् पक्षे सत्ताद्वैविध्यमेव न
सत्तात्रैविध्यम् । सर्वेषामेव दृश्यानामनात्मपदार्थानां स्वाप्नपदार्थानामिव
प्रातिभासिकसत्तैव । प्रतिभासकालादन्यकालेऽनात्मपदार्थानां सत्ता नास्ति।
तस्मान्नास्त्येव तृतीया व्यावहारिकी सत्ता । In this Theory there is no
Ignorance of Objects but only Knowledge of Objects. In SDV objects are
existing before they are seen. But in DSV objects are created when they are
seen like in a dream. Therefore it is not possible for Unknown Objects to
exist in DSV. The Ajnaata Sattaa is denied here. In Advaita this is the
Siddhaanta Paksha. There is no Sattaa Traividhya but only Sattaa
Dvaividhya. This means there are only two Sattaas - Paaramaarthika and
Praatibhaasika. All objects seen in Waking and Dream are Praatibhaasika
only. There is no existence for Objects = not Self beyond time of
appearance. Therefore there is no third Sattaa known as Vyaavahaarika.

Then there can be objection - What about Sankara Bhashya saying Ishwara is
creator in Vyavahara? But like in Bhamati the Ishwara is creator only by
Upachaara. It is only formality but not real. There is no creation beyond
time of appearance. The Drashtaa creates the objects at the time of seeing.
When he is seeing the object is there.

But there is one more objection in Siddhanta Muktavali - what about wife
and son living in the house? If Ajnaata Sattaa is correct when we leave
house and go out wife and son are not seen. This means we should think they
are no more and they are dead. We must fall to the ground in sorrow. No
this is not correct. Because Knowledge is not cancelled till another
cancelling Knowledge comes. When we leave house wife and son are there in
the Mind. That Knowledge will not get cancelled when we go out. Only if
there is a cancelling knowledge like somebody says 'Your house is burnt and
everybody inside died' there will be cancellation of earlier knowledge.
Same thing happens in dreams also. In a dream you are talking to wife and
son at home. Then you go out with a friend. In the same dream you will not
think wife and son died just because you went out and wife and son are not
seen.

Everything in Waking is like in a dream.



2017-07-30 23:10 GMT+05:30 Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>:

> Namaste
>
> This is from pages 220  in the Sanskrit Vichara Sagara.
>
> दृष्टिसृष्टिवाद एवाङ्गीकार्यः  We have to accept DSV only.
>
> परमार्थतस्तु जागरितपदार्थानामपि कार्यकारणत्वादिकं किञ्चिदपि न संभवति ।
> सर्वेऽपि पदार्थाः साक्षादविद्याकार्यभूताः शुक्तिरजतादिवत् स्वाप्नवच्च ।
> साक्षादविद्याकार्यत्वेन प्रातिभासिकत्वादविद्यावृत्त्युपहितसाक्षिणैव
> सर्वेऽपि पदार्थाः प्रकाश्यन्ते । ’दर्शनं सृष्टिरदर्शनं लयः’ इति न्यायात्
> यदा पदार्थः प्रतीयते तदैव प्रतीतिविषयः पदार्थो जायते । न तु कालान्तरे
> पदार्थोत्पत्तिरस्ति । अयमेव दृष्टिसृष्टिवाद इत्युच्यते । There cannot
> really be Cause and Effect relation between Waking State objects. All
> Waking State objects are products of Avidyaa like Silver in Shell and like
> dream objects. All Waking State objects are Praatibhaasika because they are
> products of Avidyaa. They are projected by Avidyaa Vrutti of the Sakshi.
> This means they are not outside but they are internally only in the Mind
> like dream objects. The Nyaaya used is Seeing is Creation and Not Seeing is
> Destruction of Objects. When you are seeing Objects they are produced at
> the time of seeing only. They are not there before you see them. This is
> DSV.
>
> The Notes below on same page 220 is saying -
>
> दृष्टिः = अविद्यावृत्तिरूपं ज्ञानं तदुत्पत्तिसमये एव सृष्टिः =
> दृश्यप्रपञ्चोत्पत्तिः । अस्यार्थस्य प्रतिपादनं दृष्टिसृष्टिवाद इति अजातवाद
> इति च कथ्यते । अयं च वादो बृहदारण्यकोपनिषद्भाष्ये, वार्तिके,
> माण्डूक्योपनिषत्कारिकायां, तद्भाष्ये, तत्रैवानन्दगिरिव्याख्याने, वासिष्ठे,
> सूतसंहितायां, वेदान्तमुक्तावल्यां, आत्मपुराणे, अद्वैतसिद्धौ, अन्येषु च
> वेदान्तग्रन्थेषु प्रतिपाद्यते अत्यादरेण ।
>
> The Creation of the world is when the Avidyaa Vrutti knowledge is created
> and not before. This explanation is DSV and it is also Ajaatavaada. This
> Vaada is in Brihadaranyaka Upanishad Bhashya, in Vaartika, in Mandukya
> Kaarikaa, in Mandukya Bhashya, in Ananda Giri's Vyaakhyaana, in Yoga
> Vasistha, in Suta Samhita, in Vedanta Muktavali, in Atma Purana, in Advaita
> Siddhi and other Vedanta books. There it is explained with a lot of
> Respect.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> -Venkatesh
>



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-Venkatesh