[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Re: shankara speaking on behalf of or speaking to ??

[Belavadi Shankar]

Namasthe Chandramouliji and Bhaskaraji,
I have been following your dialogue  concerning Realized Individual. I am
new and also
I am here to learn. I wish to express my understanding of this topic.
When a person becomes 'JnAni' I tend to understand it as 'AtmaJnAni'. And
such person is called 'Jeevanmuktha'. If I am correct then I remember Janaka
as the one whose name comes up in the Upanishads. Such a person will not
do anything to incur 'Karma phala' and he continues to do his 'duty' until
his
body falls off. Regarding the Prarabdha Karma, he just 'observes' without
reacting
to them one way or the other. His work in the form of duty will not incur
any karma
phala. Krishna tells Arjuna the same thing as long as he does not expect
any
return for doing his duty.
This is all my understanding by just reading. I seek advice on these topics
since
I cannot find anyone where I live.

PrAnam
- shankar

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:48 PM, H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Sri  Bhaskar Ji,
>
>
>
> Reg  << So, there is a pravrutti of the indriya-s in jnAni due to karma
> prAbalyaM. >>,
>
>
>
> Why use the word “ due to” ??  Sri Bhagavatpada has not said so. The two
> are independent.
>
>
>
> Reg  << I think this will not do justice to ‘pravrutti’ of vAng manaH kAya
> of the jnAni and as a result  kAma – krOdha of the jnAni which some
> traditionalists believe inevitable.>>,
>
>
>
> I repeat. “pravrutti” relates to vAsanAs and not prArabdha karma phala.
>
>
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> Reg  << There is demarcation between Atma vidyA (pAramArthika jnana) and
> establishment in brahmAnanda and you are implying that for the first
> fallout of vidyA is applicable to all and second fallout has to be achieved
> with further sAdhana !!??  So, realizing Atmaikatva vidyA (jnana)  is
> something different from AtmAnanda (mOksha).>>,
>
>
>
> mOksha is also understood as “liberation from future births”. That is
> ensured with “realizing Atmaikatva vidyA (jnana)”. What I have further
> differentiated is between “Atmaikatva vidyA (jnana)   “ and  “being
> continuously established in Atmaikatva vidyA (jnana) “.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> >
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