[Advaita-l] Shaivism and Vedic Hinduism

[Ajit Krishnan]

namaste,


> But Brahmins normally have to do Siva Panchayatana Puja


There are many prayoga texts which outline the panchayatana placements for
all five variations, but provide the prayoga for the Vishnu panchayatana
puja. It's clear that none of the variations are superior / inferior, and
we should continue the family tradition.


> Because Siva is the only god with both Saguna and Nirguna
> aspects according to Siva Purana


Though this is indeed what the Shiva purana states, the very existence of
the panchayatana pooja with amorphous stones for all the devatas shows
otherwise. The Mudgala purana also states that Ganesha has both aspects.

sasneham,

    ajit



On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste
>
> Panchayatana Puja has all five gods Siva, Vishnu, Sakti, Ganesha and
> Surya. But Brahmins normally have to do Siva Panchayatana Puja with
> Siva in the middle and others around Siva. This means Siva  is the
> central god and other gods are serving Him. Why is this? Because Siva
> is the only god with both Saguna and Nirguna aspects according to Siva
> Purana. Nirguna is higher than Saguna.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > What about those Brahmins who have saalagraama?
> >
> > यथान्तरं न पश्यामि तथा मे स्वस्तिरायुषी
> >
> > Regards
> > N Siva Senani
> >
> > On Thu, 5 Jan, 2017 at 11:05 p.m., Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l
> > <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > Namaste
> >
> > How is it possible to say Shaivism is different from Brahminical
> > religion when Satarudriya is from Vedas only? It is a useless
> > argument.
> >
> > As a matter of fact in Gujarat and other places Vaishnavas are not
> > considered Brahmins. Only Shiva worshippers are Brahmins. Well known
> > fact is Brahmins must worship Siva and Kshatriyas Vishnu. Vaishyas are
> > Devi Upasakas and Sudras have to worship Ganesha.
> >
> > In Pooja and other matters Vaidika and Agama methods are combined.
> > This is the way it is today. Nobody in Brahmin tradition is doing pure
> > 100% Vaidika or 100% Agama worship. Non Brahmins must not do Vaidika
> > worship but always Agama or Puranokta worship only. Ladies also can do
> > Puranokta worship with Pauranika Mantras. They should not say Gayatri
> > Mantras and Vedic Mantras like some ladies are doing. It is wrong.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Santosh Rao via Advaita-l
> > <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >> Namaskara,
> >>
> >> Is there a difference between "vaidika dharma" and the Shaiva sects?
> >>
> >> From some reading it seems the prevalent academic opinion is that
> Shaivism
> >> and Shiva worship in general was largely separate from the Brahminical
> >> religion for a large period of history before some coalescing between
> the
> >> two occurred. Also, while Vaishnavism seems to be heavily tied into this
> >> "Brahmanism," Shaivism seems to be less so. Is there a reason for this,
> or
> >> is there a discrepancy between tradition and the academic view?
> >>
> >> Also, how does the Smarta tradition view the Shaiva agamas? Are they
> >> accepted as authoritative at all? Is there a general view of Shaivas
> >> regarding Vedas and Upanishads, Puranas, etc; or does it vary from sect
> to
> >> sect? Are there any Shaiva sects that could correctly be labelled as
> >> "non-vedic?"
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Santosh
>