[Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of Adi Shankara

[Vidyasankar Sundaresan]

Dear Sunilji,

Pathak's paper says he has seen a manuscript from a private collection. He
quotes a verse that describes Sri Sankaracharya as a nava-avatAra. Of whom?
Obviously, Siva. For, the adjacent verse says, Adau Sivas, tato vishNuH
etc. The sense is that Siva was the first guru and that Sankaracharya is
his new avatAra in the Kali age. There is NOTHING there about Adi vs Nava
Sankara, NOTHING
about birth in Chidambaram, NOTHING about one person being the author of
commentaries and another being the founder of maThas, etc etc. As for
Pathak's reference to Anandagiri, I have no idea which text me is really
quoting from here.

Please, I entreat you, please learn to read journal papers and original
quotations as per their original contexts. Please resist the temptation to
force fit your own contexts and interpretations to the bare facts. I don't
know what else to tell you. We have been over these same details at least
five or six or times in the past!

Vidyasankar

On Jan 9, 2017 1:55 PM, "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Dear Vidyasankarji,
>
> The paper of Pathak, which I read, clearly mentions "Nava Shankara" and
> not Adi Shankara. Can you please send me the paper of Pathak, which  you
> claim to have read ?
>  person  as the "Anandagiri". If you think they are the same person. Ccan
> you please let me know the source of your information?
>
> Regards,
> Sunil KB
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 1/8/17, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of Adi Shankara
>  To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>, "Vidyasankar
> Sundaresan" <svidyasankar at gmail.com>
>  Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> vedanta.org>, advaitin at yahoogroups.com, "V Subrahmanian" <
> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>, "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>
>  Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017, 11:14 AM
>
>  Dear Vidyasanarji,
>
>  Can you please attach the paper of Pathak?
>
>  Regards,
>  Sunil KB
>  --------------------------------------------
>  On Sun, 1/8/17, Vidyasankar Sundaresan <svidyasankar at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
>   Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of Adi
>  Shankara
>   To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
>   Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> vedanta.org>,
>  advaitin at yahoogroups.com,
>  "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>,
>  "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>
>   Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017, 1:11 AM
>
>
>
>   On Jan 6, 2017 11:03 PM, "Sunil Bhattacharjya via
>   Advaita-l" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
>   vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>   >
>
>   > Dear Subbuji,
>
>   >
>
>   > I think Sri  Nava Shankara was indeed a great
>  scholar
>   and if I remember correctly the manuscript, which Pathak
>   found and on that basis he (Pathak) wrote a paper, Nava
>   (Abhinava) Shankara was born  in 788 CE in Chidambaram.
>   This Nava Shankara is reported to have also written many
>   texts including bhashyas and had gone to Kashmoir as well
>  as
>   to Kailash.
>
>   >
>   Dear Sunilji,
>   I have read Pathak's paper in the Indian
>   Antiquary. It says nothing about Nava Shankara or about
>   Chidambaram. The paper attributes the date 788 CE to Adi
>   Shankara and nobody else. You cannot cite Pathak in
>  support
>   of this fanciful theory of an 8th century Nava Shankara.
>
>   >
>
>   There might have some confusion in the past as the name of
>   both Adi Shankara and the Nava Shankara was Shankara.  It
>   appears that Anantaanandagiri  had written a biography of
>   Nava Shanaka.  Antarkar had done some work on the
>   shankaravijayas  as part of his PhD work but did not
>   continue that work to sort out all confusions
>
>   >
>   Sorry, anantAnandagiri also says nothing about
>   Nava Shankara. His text claims to be an account only of
>  Adi
>   Shankara. However, it is an extremely problematic text.
>   At the risk of sounding like I'm doing
>   self-promotion, please note that I have published an
>   extensive paper in the year 2000, published in The
>   International Journal of Hindu Studies, examining
>   Antarkar's papers as well as many of the original
>   Sankaravijaya texts. I have sent this by email to you as
>   well. I am only mentioning this here so that others
>   following this thread are aware of it. I
>   too hope that further research is taken up on these texts,
>   but I hope that whoever does it adopts sound research
>   methodology and works towards clarifying matters rather
>  than
>   confusing them even further. Regards, Vidyasankar
>   > May be there is scope for more research
>   and hope some university or some organization will sponsor
>   PhD level research in this area.
>
>   >
>
>   > Regards,
>
>   > Sunil KB
>
>   > ------------------------------ --------------
>
>   > On Fri, 1/6/17, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
>   vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>   >
>
>   >  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of
>   Adi Shankara
>
>   >  To: "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>,
>   "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
>   vedanta.org>
>
>   >  Date: Friday, January 6, 2017, 1:39 AM
>
>   >
>
>   >  On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at
>
>   >  1:56 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
>
>   >  advaita-l at lists.advaita-
>   vedanta.org>
>
>   >  wrote:
>
>   >
>
>   >  > Namaste Sri
>
>   >  Vidyasankar,
>
>   >  > The number of the works
>
>   >  that are called bhAshya in the mAdhavIya Sankara
>
>   >  > vijaya (I sent the references earlier)
>
>   >  when read in conjunction with the
>
>   >  >
>
>   >  DiNDima appear to be 16 in number. The next verse
>  in
>   the
>
>   >  Sankara vijaya
>
>   >  > says that Adi Sankara
>
>   >  wrote innumerable granthAs such as upadeSa sAhasri,
>
>   >  > so these are apparently classified in a
>
>   >  different category compared to
>
>   >  >
>
>   >  bhAShyas.
>
>   >  >
>
>   >
>
>   >  There is also a text called
>
>   >  'hastāmalaka-bhāṣyam' which is admitted
>   in
>
>   >  the
>
>   >  tradition to be a commentary penned by
>
>   >  Shankara on the verses given out by
>
>   >  the
>
>   >  disciple Hastamalaka. This text is also published
>  by
>   the
>
>   >  Vani Vilas
>
>   >  Press, Srirangam.
>
>   >
>
>   >  regards
>
>   >  vs
>
>   >
>
>   >
>
>   >
>
>   >  >
>
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