[Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of Adi Shankara

[Sunil Bhattacharjya]

Dear Vidyashankarji,

ShankarAcharyanavAvatara means  the new avatara of Shankaracharya. It is according to shashthi tatpurusha samasa. You can ask anybody who knows Sanskrit. This is not as you interpret. There is no alankara needed for Shankara, but only the differentiation that this Nava Shankara was a later Shankara regarded as an avatara of Adi Shankara, as he was as versatile as Adi Shankara,  . 

Secondly, I was talkng of Anantanandagiri and not Anandagiri. You took Anantanandagiri to be the same as Anandagiri 

No entreaties please.  Pathak was concerned with the date of this Nava shankara and he quoted what he thought served that purpose. He omitted most of the paper. That does not mean thaton onecan look up whether there was any Nava Shankara or not, and if there was any, where he was born etc. 

Regards,
Sunil KB



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On Mon, 1/9/17, Vidyasankar Sundaresan <svidyasankar at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of Adi Shankara
 To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
 Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>, "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
 Date: Monday, January 9, 2017, 3:51 PM
 
 Dear
 Sunilji,
 Pathak's paper
 says he has seen a manuscript from a private collection. He
 quotes a verse that describes Sri Sankaracharya as a
 nava-avatAra. Of whom? Obviously, Siva. For, the adjacent
 verse says, Adau Sivas, tato vishNuH etc. The sense is that
 Siva was the first guru and that Sankaracharya is his new
 avatAra in the Kali age. There is NOTHING there about Adi vs
 Nava Sankara, NOTHINGabout birth in Chidambaram,
 NOTHING about one person being the author of commentaries
 and another being the founder of maThas, etc etc. As for
 Pathak's reference to Anandagiri, I have no idea which
 text me is really quoting from here. 
 Please, I entreat you, please learn
 to read journal papers and original quotations as per their
 original contexts. Please resist the temptation to force fit
 your own contexts and interpretations to the bare facts. I
 don't know what else to tell you. We have been over
 these same details at least five or six or times in the
 past!
 Vidyasankar
 On Jan 9, 2017 1:55 PM,
 "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 Dear
 Vidyasankarji,
 
 
 
 The paper of Pathak, which I read, clearly mentions
 "Nava Shankara" and not Adi Shankara. Can you
 please send me the paper of Pathak, which  you claim to
 have read ?
 
  person  as the "Anandagiri". If you think they
 are the same person. Ccan you please let me know the source
 of your information?
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Sunil KB
 
 
 
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 On Sun, 1/8/17, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
 > wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of Adi
 Shankara
 
  To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
 >, "Vidyasankar Sundaresan" <svidyasankar at gmail.com>
 
  Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
 <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org>, advaitin at yahoogroups.com,
 "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>,
 "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>
 
  Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017, 11:14 AM
 
 
 
  Dear Vidyasanarji,
 
 
 
  Can you please attach the paper of Pathak?
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Sunil KB
 
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  On Sun, 1/8/17, Vidyasankar Sundaresan <svidyasankar at gmail.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of
 Adi
 
  Shankara
 
   To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
 >
 
   Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
 <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org>,
 
  advaitin at yahoogroups.com,
 
  "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>,
 
  "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>
 
   Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017, 1:11 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   On Jan 6, 2017 11:03 PM, "Sunil Bhattacharjya via
 
   Advaita-l" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 
   vedanta.org> wrote:
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   > Dear Subbuji,
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   > I think Sri  Nava Shankara was indeed a great
 
  scholar
 
   and if I remember correctly the manuscript, which
 Pathak
 
   found and on that basis he (Pathak) wrote a paper,
 Nava
 
   (Abhinava) Shankara was born  in 788 CE in
 Chidambaram.
 
   This Nava Shankara is reported to have also written
 many
 
   texts including bhashyas and had gone to Kashmoir as
 well
 
  as
 
   to Kailash.
 
 
 
   >
 
   Dear Sunilji,
 
   I have read Pathak's paper in the Indian
 
   Antiquary. It says nothing about Nava Shankara or
 about
 
   Chidambaram. The paper attributes the date 788 CE to
 Adi
 
   Shankara and nobody else. You cannot cite Pathak in
 
  support
 
   of this fanciful theory of an 8th century Nava
 Shankara.
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   There might have some confusion in the past as the name
 of
 
   both Adi Shankara and the Nava Shankara was Shankara. 
 It
 
   appears that Anantaanandagiri  had written a biography
 of
 
   Nava Shanaka.  Antarkar had done some work on the
 
   shankaravijayas  as part of his PhD work but did not
 
   continue that work to sort out all confusions
 
 
 
   >
 
   Sorry, anantAnandagiri also says nothing about
 
   Nava Shankara. His text claims to be an account only
 of
 
  Adi
 
   Shankara. However, it is an extremely problematic
 text.
 
   At the risk of sounding like I'm doing
 
   self-promotion, please note that I have published an
 
   extensive paper in the year 2000, published in The
 
   International Journal of Hindu Studies, examining
 
   Antarkar's papers as well as many of the original
 
   Sankaravijaya texts. I have sent this by email to you
 as
 
   well. I am only mentioning this here so that others
 
   following this thread are aware of it. I
 
   too hope that further research is taken up on these
 texts,
 
   but I hope that whoever does it adopts sound research
 
   methodology and works towards clarifying matters
 rather
 
  than
 
   confusing them even further. Regards, Vidyasankar
 
   > May be there is scope for more research
 
   and hope some university or some organization will
 sponsor
 
   PhD level research in this area.
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   > Regards,
 
 
 
   > Sunil KB
 
 
 
   > ------------------------------ --------------
 
 
 
   > On Fri, 1/6/17, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l
 <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 
   vedanta.org> wrote:
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   >  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas
 of
 
   Adi Shankara
 
 
 
   >  To: "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>,
 
   "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
 <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 
   vedanta.org>
 
 
 
   >  Date: Friday, January 6, 2017, 1:39 AM
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   >  On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at
 
 
 
   >  1:56 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
 
 
 
   >  advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 
   vedanta.org>
 
 
 
   >  wrote:
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   >  > Namaste Sri
 
 
 
   >  Vidyasankar,
 
 
 
   >  > The number of the works
 
 
 
   >  that are called bhAshya in the mAdhavIya
 Sankara
 
 
 
   >  > vijaya (I sent the references earlier)
 
 
 
   >  when read in conjunction with the
 
 
 
   >  >
 
 
 
   >  DiNDima appear to be 16 in number. The next
 verse
 
  in
 
   the
 
 
 
   >  Sankara vijaya
 
 
 
   >  > says that Adi Sankara
 
 
 
   >  wrote innumerable granthAs such as upadeSa
 sAhasri,
 
 
 
   >  > so these are apparently classified in a
 
 
 
   >  different category compared to
 
 
 
   >  >
 
 
 
   >  bhAShyas.
 
 
 
   >  >
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   >  There is also a text called
 
 
 
   >  'hastāmalaka-bhāṣyam' which is
 admitted
 
   in
 
 
 
   >  the
 
 
 
   >  tradition to be a commentary penned by
 
 
 
   >  Shankara on the verses given out by
 
 
 
   >  the
 
 
 
   >  disciple Hastamalaka. This text is also
 published
 
  by
 
   the
 
 
 
   >  Vani Vilas
 
 
 
   >  Press, Srirangam.
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   >  regards
 
 
 
   >  vs
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   >
 
 
 
   >  >
 
 
 
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