[Advaita-l] Fwd: prayAshchitaM for sAvitribhraShTAH

[Ramachandra Sastry]

Namaste,

There are predominantly 6 types of prayachittas described in Dharma sastras
for Upanayana's mukya/gouna kala atikrama.

1) Yamokta Shikaavapana poorvaka yavaka vratam
2) Manuuna vukata/ Katyayanooktha kruchracharanam
3) Apathambokta trividya Brahmacharyam
4) Vasistookta Uddalaka vratam, Avabrutam
5) Vaikhanasokta Uddalaka vratam
6) Yajnavalkya vukta Vyastyastomam


Dharmasastra granthas have detailed the above prayaschittas,however for
today's practical purposes many have suggested the kruchracharanam is the
way we can follow and if this is also not possible then do pratyamnayam as
said in shatras and conduct the upanayanam.

Hemadri in his famous prayaschitta-kanda had provided the details on the
upanayana kala atikrama prayaschitta.

*Please find the screenshots attached to the mail.*

In summary, if a person is getting upanayanam after 16 years, both father
and the son are required to do prayaschittam.
Firstly, the father has to do 3 Chandrayana vrata and for the son's shuddi
Gomukha janana sahita 3 Prajaapatyas to be performed before the upanayana
samskara is performed.

Since the above vratas are elaborate and difficult to do in the present
times, sastras have provided the pratyamnayam for the same.
According to Chaturvimshatimate, for prajapatyavrata 1 Go-dana, for paraaka
and tapta 3 Go-danas, for chandrayana 8 Go-daanas are the pratyamnayaas.
According the Smrityartha sara, 3 go-danas are the prathyamnaya for
Chandrayana.
Hence by doing the above Go-danas/Pratyamnayas the father and son are
entitled to get the Upanayana done.

Subsequently, in the place of pratyaksha Go-dana , Go-mulya dakshina
according to his capacity (yathashakthi) can also be performed.

Hope the above helps.


Dhanyavada
Ramachandra








On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Nithin Sridhar via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Surely, you could come down to Sringeri and consult with Shankaracharya. I
> think that is the best option.
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> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Rajesh Benjwal via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> >   नमस्ते प्रवीणमहाभाग:,
> >
> > You are right people wanting to study Vedas are rare and must be
> > encouraged. Only because of that I am trying hard to reach to a feasible
> > conclusion and trying to talk with various AcAryAs. Doing
> > yajnopavitam without any prAyashchita karma is out of my capacity.
> > vrAtyastoma is out of their capacity as the cost of this yajnA is almost
> 7
> > lac. 36 Brhamin 5 days and 33 cows.
> >
> > First option -
> >
> > Go to HH
> > ​
> > Shankaracharya. Unfortunately, Shankaracharya matham of the north is
> under
> > controversy over who is the real Shankaracharya of jyotirmatha.
> > Jyotirmatha has broken lineage, there was no Shankaracharya in this matha
> > for 160+ years.
> >
> > Second option -
> >
> > We are thinking to form a Vedic assembly but unfortunately, scholars who
> > study the whole shakha are rare in north India. We have yajurvedIna but
> no
> > RRigvedIna and sAmavedIna. We may get all three in triupati but not in
> > North India.
> >
> > Talk to traditional Scholars -
> >
> > In north India, most of the traditional scholars do not know about even
> > vrAtyastoma. Wearing yajnopavita at the time of marriage is new norm
> here.
> >
> > Someone like Mani Darvida Sastriji may help in this matter. So waiting
> if I
> > can get his contact information from somewhere.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Praveen R. Bhat <bhatpraveen at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Namaste Rajeshji,
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Rajesh Benjwal via Advaita-l <
> > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> ​​
> > >> Thanks, Venkatraghavanji for your suggestion.
> > >>
> > >> I just checked Apasthambha sUtra and found अतिक्रान्ते सावित्रया: काल
> > ऋतुं
> > >> त्रैविद्यकं ब्रह्मचर्यं चरेत्।Means If the proper time for Savitri has
> > >> passed, one shall observe the duties practiced by students familiar
> with
> > >> tri-vidyA for a whole Ritu.
> > >>
> > >> Looks convincing, let me check it with some Acarya, if I am taking the
> > >> right meaning, who follows Apasthambha sUtra.
> > >>
> > >
> > > ​It appears that the above solution in Apastamba of following all of
> > > Brahmachari's vows​ (except for agnikArya, vedAdhyAyana and
> gurusuSrUSha)
> > > synchronising with a Rtu is valid only if upanayana is done immediately
> > > afterwards, before 19 years of age is attained! There is more to be
> done
> > > after the upanayana too, but its not applicable since your prospective
> > > students are 23 yrs old.
> > >
> > > Other than above for 18-19 age range, following seems the solution,
> which
> > > is how you too seem to have landed on vrAtyastomayajna in your
> > > dharmashAstra too.
> > > 19-20: 3 rounds of cAndrAyaNavrata.
> > > 20-21: uddAlakavrata.
> > > 21-22: avabhRtasnAna in ashvamedhayajna (and in Kaliyuga, uddAlakavrata
> > as
> > > well as 17-day yAvakavrata).
> > > 22+: vrAtyastomayajna.
> > >
> > > That said, I am sure you will not give up on the students since people
> > > wanting to study Vedas is rare and should be encouraged. To that
> effect,
> > I
> > > do feel that some simpler solution will definitely come to light when
> you
> > > talk to some traditional scholar, HH
> > > ​​
> > > Shankaracharya​ or with a Vedic assembly.
> > >
> > > s
> > > ​hubhaM bhUyAditi prArthaye​
> > > ,
> > > --Praveen R. Bhat
> > > /* येनेदं सर्वं विजानाति, तं केन विजानीयात्। Through what should one
> know
> > > That owing to which all this is known! [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */​
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > *Rajesh Benjwal*
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