[Advaita-l] Chanting Gayatri overseas

Kalyan kalyan_kg at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 8 04:11:41 EDT 2017

Sri Sujalji,

Would you recommend breaking of the Ashrama dharma as a regular practice? Shankara did it, so anyone else can do it? Comes under sistachara right? If we have sistachara to guide us, why have shruti and smriti?


On Sun, 10/8/17, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Chanting Gayatri overseas
 To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 Cc: "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>, "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
 Date: Sunday, October 8, 2017, 7:58 AM
 Even Ādi Śankara
 has broken Āshrama dharma when he attended his mother's
 Thank you Sri Subbu
 ji sharing sharing your thoughts in this and earlier
 A little off-topic:
 I humbly feel that we should not try to find perfection in
 anybody. Except Iśvara no one else is perfect. People find
 faults in Bhagavān Rāma also.
 Hari OMSujal
 On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at
 12:46 PM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:09 AM,
 Kalyan <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>
 > Subbuji,
 > I appreciate your liberal and practical outlook.
 > But as far as crossing the ocean is concerned, what
 applies to any
 > brAhmaNa also applies to the Sringeri Acharya. So if
 there are "vibrant
 > Hindu communities with Vedic knowledge" in distant
 lands, what prevents the
 > AchArya from going there physically? Perhaps because he
 knows that it is
 > prohibited. If it is prohibited for him, same for
 There is no compulsion for him to go there
 physically. For those who have
 gone there and settled, he does not refuse his blessings.
 His attitude in
 this has been already stated by me in this thread: So far
 the Jagadguru of
 this peetham has not gone abroad. We do not know what will
 be the case with
 the future pontiffs. That said, here is what he said, in a
 context, about his predecessor Guru, Jagadguru Sri Abhinava
 Vidyatirtha as
 published in the book Yoga, Enlightenment and Perfection
 //He was not in the least dogmatic. The ancients held that
 the earth is
 fixed while the modern scientists aver that it moves.
 purāṇamityeva na sādhu sarvaṁ
 na cāpi kāvyaṁ navamityavadyam ।
 santaḥ parīkṣyānyataradbhajante mūḍhaḥ
 parapratyayaneyabuddhiḥ ॥4 (Malavikāgnimitra I.2)
 (All that is ancient is not good nor is a work censurable
 because it is
 modern. The wise accept an alternative after examination;
 unwise are guided by the beliefs of others.)
 In keeping with this statement of the pre-eminent poet
 Kālidāsa, His
 Holiness subscribed only to the position that the earth
 moves. He
 ignored, in this manner, the distinction of ancient and
 modern in numerous
 matters and gave weight only to that which was reasonable
 and accorded with evidence. Broadmindedness such as His was
 difficult to
 come by in anyone else. //
 And Jagadguru Chandrashekhara Bharati Swamiji, admittedly a
 very orthodox
 Sannyasin, 'encouraged his disciple (Jagadguru Sri
 Abhinava Vidyatirtha) to
 take a free and independent line of thinking in such matters
 in keeping
 with the need to cater to a changing a less orthodox
 society. For his part
 however, he was content with directly holding the views he
 had.' (cited
 from the book The Crest Jewel of Yogis, Vol I,p.109).
 So, there is no worth in asking 'why the Jagadguru does
 not travel
 Swami Paramarthananda had said about 'personal
 habits/interests': In a
 spiritual retreat spanning a few days, every morning the
 participants would
 arrive at the dining hall in the morning for breakfast and
 beverage. A
 choice of Coffee, Tea, milk, etc. will be offered. Each one
 takes that
 which he is used to, is comfortable with, preference, etc.
 There is no
 censure of those who prefer coffee over milk. In fact if
 some of the
 beverages offered there were a taboo, they would not have
 been given as a
 So, a person may not have objection to someone else
 travelling abroad but
 he may not be inclined to do so. Does not one have the
 freedom to hold a
 particular view?
 > So, your arguments don't really sound
 Conviction arising from an argument is subjective.
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