[Advaita-l] Rainbow Body

[Sujal Upadhyay]

PrANAms,
Still Ramana Maharshi did not deny the traditional path. In Sri Ramana Gita
many such doubts are cleared.

In chapter 15 Maharshi talks about chintan, manan and nidhidhyAsana

Chapyer 7 is about who qualifies for AtmaGYAna.

What I feel is that Sri Ramana Maharshi's teachings are for those who have
walked 100 out of 108 steps.

Those who asked questions were not beginners but advanced sAdhaka-s. So
Maharshi tried to lift them to one step ahead and remove the last few knots
that is stopping them from Self Realisation. AshTAvakra gItA also talks
about only and only Brahma GYAna and so I'd not suitable for masses.

I remember that my father once was quoting Sri Ramana Maharshi.

Someone asked Maharshi that J Krishnamurty says that there is no need of
Guru.
Maharshi replied thst, which said so, only after AtmaGYAna one can say so
not before. Don't know from where he was quoting.

I feel Maharshi gave importance to sAdhanA. He gave importance to bhAva as
in upadesha sAram. SAdhaka had already passed to vidhi vidhAna, karma
kANDa, etc and then is stuck up somewhere. Then asks questions. To this
question Maharshi's answers are very helpful to further progress
spiritually and attain GYAna.

Hari OM


On Wed, Aug 8, 2018, 9:37 AM Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Sri Ramana Maharshi's works are not for beginners. The query or Self
> Enquiry, is supposed to end in Atma sthiti.
> So after questioning yourself 'Who am I', the question and other thoughts
> subside naturally, mind is then directed towards source or 'heart'. Then
> there is maun. We must not keep asking who am I every 10 seconds :)
>
> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
>
> Yes that is true.  The ramaNa's way of teaching is definitely not for
> beginners and it is not the 'teaching' (upadesha) as such  that bhagavAn
> wants to convey, it is all about the 'natural state' of Atman that he
> wanted to convey opines one of the traditionally renowned scholars.  He
> observes people getting confused because ramaNa's talks are most of the
> times about 'sthiti' and not about sAdhana.  When people approached and
> asked him about the Atma jnana, tranquility etc. he used to counter them
> with the questions like who is asking this question ?? who is expecting
> answer to these question?? Find out it first,  then you will get answer to
> all your doubts. He never ever asked anyone to find the shrotreeya guru in
> the traditional school nor asked to do shAstrA vAkya shravaNAdi sAdhana
> though he holds these traditional obligations  with high esteem.  So, to
> get Atma jnana, this is something not an orthodox way of teaching like
> shAstra vAkya shravaNa, manana and nidhidhyAsana under the guidance of guru
> who is the authoritative representative of 'guru-shishya' avicchinna
> paraMpara.  Hence, according to him bhagavaan ramaNa maharshi is the brahma
> nishTa of the highest order and  his teaching or observations were about
> brahma nishTa sthiti but when it comes to sAdhana related matters it is not
> in line with shrOtreeya way of traditional teaching.  Yes, there is mouna
> vyAkhyAna from the guru and shishya getting enlightenment with this type of
> vyAkhyAna.  But how many traditional guru kula-s & guru-s  observing this
> way of mouna vyAkhyAna teaching !!??
>
> I heard this some decades back just quoting from the memory.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
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