[Advaita-l] The 'Snake-and-ladder' game - The Spiritual path

[Murali k]

Mr Kalyan,

I am not blaming the missionaries for everything. I do blame them for
widening the existing rift and also capitalising on  them to suit their own
purpose, as  is their wont.  . Here, I was saying that  specific instances
of discrimination being quoted in that link you provided were jotted down
by missionaries and hence a red flag  (for me) when it come to judging the
authenticity of these particular instances. I will surely look up the
chinese folks have to say about this.

For sure, there could be an oral tradition. However, Mr. Ambedkar quotes
sources for instances of  discrimination  and not for this  atrocity.
Hence my comment.









On 11 August 2018 at 15:28, Kalyan via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Mr. Murali, I am glad you acknowledge the atrocities and discrimination.
> They have been documented from the time of Fa Hien and Hiuen Tsang. Blaming
> missionaries for everything, everytime, is not going to work.
>
> Also, there is some confusion over the term Shudras. Whether there were 4
> varnas or 5 varnas is debatable. Manu says there are only 4. But Chandalas
> and others were the most suppressed. Some take them as the lower part of
> shudra community, others dont. So depending on your perception, chandalas
> etc may constitute either the 5th varna (lower than shudras) or the lower
> part of the 4th. Using the  modern parlance of dalits is more clear.
>
>
>
> Also, it is strange people are asking for written sources for what Dr. B R
> Ambedkar has written. Cant there be an oral tradition among the chandalas,
> especially when most were uneducated?
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