[Advaita-l] Samvadi Brama

[Aditya Kumar]

Namaste,
Sometimes we may confuse a rope for a snake but sometimes we may encounter an actual snake. Prior to both the outcomes, the person who is seeing the snake is in a state of uncertainty. Regardless of the both the outcomes, the person clearly sees either the rope or the snake. So the true svarupa of an object is necessary for an outcome. So once the person sees the actual lamp or jewel or rope or snake, it is not a brama anymore even in the illustration. Brama is applicable only as long as the person is not certain. So I wonder why this illustration or a redundant concept is brought up to explain nothing. We see samsara due to erroneous view and it is ought to be sublated by the correct knowledge, samyag darshana. So how is it that the Upanishads are declared as brama? Is brahma-jnana a brama? Doesn't erroneous knowledge lead to wrong perception? The example/illustration given in panchadashi is not at all satisfactory because unlike the confused person in pursuit of the jewel, the Upanishads are certain about Brahman.  
The objects of meditation cannot be brama because everyone knows it is kalpita. Is there no difference between a kalpana or a mental object or even a physical object or a symbol and a brama which is erroneous notion? How can anyone meditate on an erroneous notion? The erroneous view of a snake could be sublated by another erroneous notion and we may see a tail of a monkey. But eventually, we have to see its true svarupa. How can erroneous notion show us the true svarupa of Brahman or anything for that matter? There seems to be no such concept in Shankara's commentaries or prakarana texts. If there is any mention of the word samvadi brama or an explanation of the concept with an illustration is available, I request the members to kindly share the reference.