[Advaita-l] Samvadi Brama
Aditya Kumar
kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 22 07:28:57 EDT 2018
Thanks a lot. This clears up my confusion. Grateful for the explanation.
On Wednesday, 22 August, 2018, 4:02:24 PM IST, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:
NamasteFirstly why this is an example of samvAdi bhrama. The quoted instance is said to be a bhrama because the person superimposes the gem upon gem light and runs after it. The gem and its light are different. So the bhrama here is him confusing the gem light for the gem (it is not a bhrama if he infers that light must have come from the gem, but it is if he thinks that light *is* the gem). It is samvAdi because the person gets the object he desires.
If that is not a very convincing example of samvAdi bhrama, (personally I don't think it is a great example), one can consider another.
A person mistakes a dust cloud for smoke, and infers fire there. It happens to be correct because fire happens to be actually present there, coincidentally. Thus an incorrect perception still gives the right result.
Secondly, when in the ninth chapter of the panchadashi, VidyAraNya svAminah is comparing upAsana to samvAdi bhrama, he is meaning it in a couple of senses:1) It is a deliberate superimposition taught by the shAstra which the upAsaka practices as an article of faith. Like the prescription of viShnNu upAsana on the sAligrAma stone. The sAligrAma is not viShNu, but an upAsana imagining viShNu in that Alambanam gives a positive result (puNya). Thus, while it is samvAdi bhrama, the shAstra that prescribes it is still a pramANa because following its instruction produces the results outlined in shAstra; or,
2) Where someone has had paroksha jnAna of brahman, but not aparoksha jnAna, upAsana of brahman is prescribed. That is, he knows that shAstra is teaching him tattvamasi, but he is unable to accept ahambrahmAsmi, because of various obstacles. For him, the upAsana of ahambrahmAsmi is prescribed. Here the content of upAsana is not invalid (for ahambrahmAsmi is valid knowledge), but the upAsana is not a direct means to aparoksha jnAna. vichAra or enquiry is the direct method. However despite upAsana being only an indirect method, it is prescribed because that person needs it to graduate to the next level - namely, enquiry.
Regards,Venkatraghavan
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