[Advaita-l] Question about Avaccheda vada

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Fri Feb 9 10:30:43 EST 2018

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 6:27 PM, Aditya Kumar <kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com>

>  The term upadhi does not have any
>  negative connotation. It only shows Nirguna Brahman as
>  someone with certain attributes, visheshas. NB with maaya
>  shuddha sattva as upadhi is Ishwara. It need not and does
>  not limit Ishwara.
> A: But can trigunatmika maya be found in NB? If there is guna, then there
> is karma and hence the cycle of samsara. So ishwara is also a samsarin?

It cannot be 'found' in NB. The shaastra 'makes' an Ishwara out of NB and
Maya. This is for a purpose.

>  In fact he is admitted to be Sarva
>  Shakta and Sarvajna. The mahavakya 'Tat tvam asi'
>  straightaway means 'tat = the jagatkaaranam which is
>  omniscient and omnipotent. tvam is the jiva who is embodied,
>  samsari, etc.  Since 'asi', identity cannot happen,
>  the upadhis on both sides are negated. What remains is pure
>  consciousness. Thus the identity. So, both jivatva and
>  Ishwaratva are negated.
> A: No confusion here. But the key is, it is the jiva who is superimposing
> karanatvam on tat and as such tat itself is free from all attributes.

It is the shaastra that superimposes kaaranatvam on Tat. This is called
'adhyaropa.  The apavada is 'no jaati, no creation.'


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