[Advaita-l] Question about Avaccheda vada
kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 9 10:50:44 EST 2018
Thanks for the clarification.
On Fri, 9/2/18, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Question about Avaccheda vada
To: "Aditya Kumar" <kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "H S Chandramouli" <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 9 February, 2018, 3:30 PM
Feb 9, 2018 at 6:27 PM, Aditya Kumar <kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com>
The term upadhi does not have any
negative connotation. It only shows Nirguna Brahman as
someone with certain attributes, visheshas. NB with
shuddha sattva as upadhi is Ishwara. It need not and
not limit Ishwara.
A: But can trigunatmika maya be found in NB? If there
is guna, then there is karma and hence the cycle of samsara.
So ishwara is also a samsarin?
It cannot be 'found' in NB.
The shaastra 'makes' an Ishwara out of NB and Maya.
This is for a purpose.
In fact he is admitted to be Sarva
Shakta and Sarvajna. The mahavakya 'Tat tvam
straightaway means 'tat = the jagatkaaranam which
omniscient and omnipotent. tvam is the jiva who is
samsari, etc. Since 'asi', identity cannot
the upadhis on both sides are negated. What remains is
consciousness. Thus the identity. So, both jivatva and
Ishwaratva are negated.
A: No confusion here. But the
key is, it is the jiva who is superimposing karanatvam on
tat and as such tat itself is free from all
It is the shaastra that superimposes
kaaranatvam on Tat. This is called 'adhyaropa. The
apavada is 'no jaati, no creation.'
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