[Advaita-l] Quarrel between Two 'Kalai' followers of Srivaishnavism

[S Venkatraman]

Very nice to know Ryan, that you are from Jo’burg. I have very fond memories of my one week visit there in 1996. Regards,

Venkat

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> On 09-Jun-2018, at 3:47 PM, Ryan Armstrong <ryanarm at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Venkat ji (and Subbu ji)
> 
> Thank you for your kind words.
> I live in Johannesburg in South Africa.
> Best wishes
> Ryan
> 
>> On 9 June 2018 at 09:44, S Venkatraman via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> Namaste Ryan,
>> 
>> Your bhava towards the Veda, Vedanta and Sanskrit is both gratifying and
>> humbling. Not many in India have it. What country you are from Ryan?
>> 
>> I bow to you. Regards,
>> 
>> Venkat
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Ryan Armstrong via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > Dear sreenivasa ji
>> > From direct experience it can be said that this is in evidence.
>> > I have neither the birth lineage nor the access due to current circumstance
>> > of देश  and काल to practice the religion.
>> > And yet the Advaita Vedanta Philosophy is readily accepted and studied.
>> >
>> > However, the importance of the practice of the dharmas cannot be ignored,
>> > since it is essential in preservation of the Veda.
>> > And the preservation of the Veda is the essential service to mankind and
>> > the world.
>> > For just as an oyster is structured so that a pearl may arise in it, and
>> > the Mahaabhatrata is as an oyster shell to the Bhagavat Gita,
>> > So too The Veda contain the Vedanta that most precious of all gems, by
>> > which the mind can know of its identity with the Supreme and return to its
>> > natural state of utter quiescence.
>> >
>> > Sadly, when the advaita-bhava is lost, these scenes occur.
>> > Kind Regards
>> > Ryan
>> >
>> > On 9 June 2018 at 07:16, sreenivasa murthy via Advaita-l <
>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > >  Dear Sri Subramanian,You write :""A question arises as to the
>> > > philosophy-religion dichotomy. Whetherphilosophy could be kept completely
>> > > out of religion or can the two coexist."A very interesting question
>> > > indeed!Mantra 2-1-14 of Kathopanishad gives the answer ver clearly.It
>> > reads
>> > > thus :      anyatra dharmAdanyatrAdharmAt ||dharma and adharma fall
>> > within
>> > > the parameters of religion,
>> > > whereas the Absolute Reality or paramArthatattva is
>> > > the subject matter of Philosophy.
>> > > You can draw the right conclusion in the light
>> > > of the above quoted mantra.
>> > > Unfortunately Advaita also has been brought under the
>> > > Hindu Religion due to mistaken notions and there is a notionthat it is
>> > the
>> > > jahagiri or property of some religious mathas.
>> > > No doubt for advaitajnana a Religious mind is absolutely essential.It may
>> > > please be noted a reigious mind is entirely differennt from a mindwhich
>> > > owes allegiance to religions.
>> > > This is my understanding.
>> > > With respectful namaskars,Sreenivasa Murthy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >     On Saturday, 9 June, 2018, 8:33:09 AM IST, V Subrahmanian via
>> > > Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >  When the Ramanuja followers celebrated the 1000 years of his advent just
>> > > last year, there are two main groups of his following continuing their
>> > > bickering to this day.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Sri Kanchi varadaraja swami temple Nammazhwar saatrumurai quarrels
>> > between
>> > > thenkalai and vadakalai vaishnavas May 29, 2018
>> > >
>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9IQT7Acb2o
>> > >
>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXyVkn1y4w0
>> > >
>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cokd8zfjZTU
>> > >
>> > > There were fist-fights, pushing, wordy duels, cursing, etc.
>> > >
>> > > A friend said that this is an annual feature during the Nammazhwar
>> > festival
>> > > in the Kanchi Varadarajaswamy temple, the other several  unsettled
>> > burning
>> > > issues between the two sects notwithstanding.
>> > >
>> > > A question arises as to the philosophy-religion dichotomy. Whether
>> > > philosophy could be kept completely out of religion or can the two
>> > coexist.
>> > >
>> > > regards
>> > > subrahmanian.v
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