[Advaita-l] Any new posts on Sringeri Days?

[Kalyan]

 //In fact the akasha example was given to show that just as akasha is really not limited by the pot-upadhis, Brahman is not tainted by the body-mind upadhis. //


If the above is the position, then it is not correct to say that brahman is affected by avidya or ignorance.

    On Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:10:48 PM GMT+5:30, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Kalyan via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

//Just like one mahAkAsha can have as many ghaTa-upAdhis and become
those many ghaTAkAshas, so can one brahman be associated with as many
avidyA-upAdhis and become those many jIvas//In this case, nobody can attain liberation until all jIvas have attained liberation since even if one set of upAdhis are removed, other sets of upAdhis that limit brahman still exist.


The defect in the above conclusion is: While the case of akasha is 'real', the case with Brahman is not so. Brahman is infinite, that is the adhishThaanam for akasha even. Also, the Brahma sutra, the Purusha sukta, etc. clearly say 'it is not that Brahman 'in its entirety' has become the world; only one fourth is this creation and three fourths stands 10 inches above creation, untouched by the latter. [Sayana has clarified that the part-idea is only to convey that Brahman is untouched by creation.] So, the premise of the above conclusion does not depict the actual picture of Advaita.  Even in the case of Akasha there is no real limitation caused to akasha due to the pot-enclosures. In the BG 13.15:
बहिरन्तश्च भूतानामचरं चरमेव च । 
सूक्ष्मत्वात्तदविज्ञेयं दूरस्थं चान्तिके च तत् ॥ १५ ॥ 
Shankara has said Atman/Brahman pervades both the inside and outside of all beings.  What about the middle? Even that is pervaded by Atman. 
In fact the akasha example was given to show that just as akasha is really not limited by the pot-upadhis, Brahman is not tainted by the body-mind upadhis.        

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