[Advaita-l] Sleep, tamas and brahman

Kalyan kalyan_kg at yahoo.com
Fri May 4 05:51:50 EDT 2018


 Dear Sri Bhaskarji
//Okay, at least why he does not know himself that he is brahman in sushupti??//

(Does nirguNa brahman know itself as nirguNa brahman? I think this is an open question.) In Sushupti, the self does not know because it is completely merged (becomes one with)  nirguNa Atman. However, the Atman does not lose its vision or potential to know.
//Now the question is how the same jeeva arise from sushupti with his avidyA, saMskAra, guNa, individual identity etc.  when he is brahman itself in sushupti?? //

If you have been following the previous discussions, I mentioned at a few places that Shankara asks such a question in BU, but does not answer that. I have no answers myself. 
//But we can look at it after wards since here main bone of contention is avidyA in sushupti //

Sir, in my opinion, there are two answers - 
1. There is no avidya in sushupti is the stand taken by BU.2. There is avidya in sushupti is the stand taken by MaU
RegardsKalyan    On Friday, May 4, 2018, 3:09:28 PM GMT+5:30, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:  
 
 The so-called lack of perception in deep sleep is not real. Shankara answers this. The Self actually continues to see in deep sleep because the vision of witness can never be lost. But there is no second thing to be seen etc.

praNAms
Hare Krishna

In continuation to your last sentence, there is no second thing to be seen because of ekatvaM in sushupti.  Okay, at least why he does not know himself that he is brahman in sushupti??  Shankara answers in chAndOgya by giving the example that here in sushupti the mergence is not like water wetting the cloth and becomes wet cloth (here water and cloth are separate), the mergence is like flower juice (puShpa rasa ) in honey.  Now the question is how the same jeeva arise from sushupti with his avidyA, saMskAra, guNa, individual identity etc.  when he is brahman itself in sushupti??  This question has also been answered by bhAshyakAra. But we can look at it after wards since here main bone of contention is avidyA in sushupti :-) 

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar


  


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