[Advaita-l] The Foundations of Adhyāsa - 8 (The Three States)

[Ravi Kiran]

Namaste Sri Chandramouli ji

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:46 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:26 PM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> << Since the realization 'I am all', sarvoham' arises ONLY by the
> falsification of the objective world, mithyatva nishchaya', the above
> Mantra and Bhashya is the proof of the Jnani relizing even in dream that
> the world is mithya. >>.
>
> I am not so sure. I think what the mantra and bhashya are stating is that
> in the dream state also, the jnAni dreams that he is a jnAni and not that
> he is being chased by elephants etc which the ajnAnIs normally dream. The
> mantra and bhashya do not state that the jnAni is aware of the dream to be
> unreal when he is in the dream state.
>
Can you clarify - what you mean by - "the jnAni dreams that he is a jnAni"
?

do you imply that the dream state will be comprised of entirely jnAna
vRttis to the exlusion of any prapancha (vishaya) vRtti ?

Or, in spite of the prapancha vRttis  ( being chased by elephants etc) that
so manifests in dream state, such a one knows the mithyatva of it and no
identification takes place, because of one's nischaya advaita jnAna
attained during waking state?

Thanks

> Part of translation of same bhashya by Swami Madhavananda   << Then when
> ignorance and knowledge increases, ( the result is as follows ). The text
> describes the content and nature of the knowledge : *And when* he himself
> becomes *a god, as it were*. When, in the waking state, meditation
> regarding the gods prevails, he considers himself a god, as it were, on
> account of the impressions generated by it. The same thing is being said of
> the dream state too : He becomes  ‘a god, as it were.’  *Or a king, as it
> were* : Having been installed as the ruler of a state ( in the waking
> state ), he thinks in his dreams also that he is a king. For he is imbued
> with the impressions of his kingly state. Similarly, when ( in the waking
> state) his ignorance is extremely attenuated, and the knowledge that he
> comprises all arises, he *thinks* under the influence of these
> impressions in the dream state also, ‘*This (*universe*) is myself, who
> am all.’** >>*
>
> Regards
>
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