[Advaita-l] a mumukshu and a deluded at pralaya

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Mon Oct 1 13:39:00 EDT 2018


A reply to the question posed:

http://talkandcomment.com/p/3a4b2c49cebd3748415b22fb (voice note)

regards
subbu

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:02 PM Gopal via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste to all:
>
> I  am presenting here a  doubt put to me by an young man. He sounded really
> serious and the question was genuine. I could not answer that and so I am
> presenting it here paraphrasing the conversation as  first person singular
> for ease of communication:
>
> "All around me there is a breakdown of traditions and fundamental
> structures so far upheld by the self-less actions of dharmic persons. It
> appears that dharma is getting leached and slowly eroding like the rocks on
> a turbulent beach. The rules of the society are breaking down with
> consequences Shri Krishna warned in Bhagavat Gita. Finding a true sadhaka
> is becoming rare, rarer is a brahmana who follows his varna dharma. Abuse
> of technology has become  a cancer invading even the sacred garbagruha of a
> temple or a distracted kartha on a phone call during shraddha.
>
> It is only natural to expect this situation to spiral down towards until
> pralaya.  We have not yet seen even a scratch of the dark times of adharma
> to come. If so, my doubt is, what happens to the jivas who are not evolved
> enough to attain mukti before pralaya or at pralaya?  If everything is
> going to be dissolved and returned to elemental principles, then carrying
> on the lives in the poison of vishayanubhava is fine enough? What is the
> incentive for someone to follow any niyama anustana and tapas when actually
> there is no punishment for such a pointless living? Whether I make it to
> the finish line to become liberated after toiling for many lives, or keep
> running with my failure already obvious, then why toil at all? What does
> Vedanta proscribe as the fate of those jivas ( I guess majority ) who are
> immersed in ignorant ways of lives drowned in sensory pleasure and
> delusion? If both a jnani and  a deluded  both are going to see their
> accounts settled off, debts wiped off and book cleared, why would the
> ignorant, deluded jiva even try to get on to sadhana? What does vedanta
> says about such a mindset?  Any illuminating thoughts on this doubt  would
> be appreciated."
>
>
> thanks
>
> ..gopal gopinath
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