[Advaita-l] HH Sri Paramananda Bharathi Swamiji attained mukti

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste Raghav ji,
Or just take bhAva rUpa avidyA to mean it is abhAva vilakshaNa.

The important thing is that ajnAna cannot mean jnAna abhAva. If so, then
one would necessarily need pratiyogi jnAna to cognise abhAva. But if jnAna
itself is pratiyogi, one would need to know jnAna to cognise ajnAna, which
is a contradiction in terms.

Better to say ajnAna is abhAva vilakshaNa padArtha that is sAkshi vedyam.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan


On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, 05:40 Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Thu 1 Aug, 2019, 5:25 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Hari Om Bhaskar prabhu ji,
> >
> > I find the arguments of both sampradAya as well as by SSS/Swami
> Paramananda
> > Bharati ji as very very strong.
> >
> > I am also in awe of mind-boggling details to which
> Chitsukhi/Advaita-siddhi
> > goes.
> >
> > Though appealing, the arguments such as Brahman becoming sarvajna through
> > avidya, have been adequately addressed in sampradAya.
> >
> > We need to keep a window always open imho. Since everything is
> > fundamentally based on a belief of pramAnatva of Shruti -- I don't
> discount
> > the possibility that our entire VedAnta itself may not be correct (no
> > matter how pointless our lives become then). And hence adequate respect
> to
> > science need to be given. And therefore I get shocks when I read things
> > like darkness being some stuff.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Sudhanshu.
> >
>
> Not sure if the use of the word yatkincid bhAvarUpA for categorising avidyA
> (a much weaker word than "hard-core" bhAvarUpA and in keeping with
> anirvacaniyA khyAti) used by many Acharyas like Sri Sadananda in
> vedAntasAra help lessen the shock? :)
>
> Om
>
> Raghav
>
> >
> > On Thu 1 Aug, 2019, 15:34 Bhaskar YR, <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Further as per him, unlike SSS, Maya is not kalpita due to avidya (if I
> > > understand SSS correct here).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > praNAms Sri Sudhanshu Shekhar prabhuji
> > >
> > > Hare Krishna
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We have to be very careful while interpreting Sri SSS words.  Yes, at
> > most
> > > of the places Sri SSS says mAya is avidyA kalpita (fictiously imagined
> by
> > > avidyA based on bhAshya vAkya-s like avidyAtmikA hi beeja shaktiH
> avyakta
> > > shabda nirdeshya, avidyAkalpitena cha nAmarUpa lakshaNena rUpabhedena
> > > vyAkrutAvyAkrutAtmakena etc.) but context in which we have to
> understand
> > > that vAkruta (nAma rUpa)  and avyAkruta (beeja shaktiH) both are avidyA
> > > kalpita is whenever they are viewed separate from brahman it is mere
> > > figment of avidyA.  But when this ‘shakti is realized as brahmAnanya’
> > there
> > > is no anAtma whatsoever apart from brahman.  If you know kannada I
> would
> > > like to quote here from Sri SSS’s one of the Kannada works : avyAkruta
> > nAma
> > > rUpagaLu tamma AtmasvarUpavannu ettukonde vyAkrutavAguttade.  “ NAAMA
> > > RUPAGALIGE BRAHMAVE SVARUPAVU” AADARE BRAHMAKKE NAAMA RUPAGALU
> > > SVARUPAVALLA” egalu ella kadeyalliyu Atmane eruttaaneye horatu
> > berondilla,
> > > AATMANIGINTA BEREYAADA ANAATMA VEMBUDU ELLIYU ENDIGU ERUVUDE ELLA.   It
> > is
> > > just because : tasmAt kAraNasya Atma bhUtA shaktiH, shakteshcha Atma
> > bhUtaM
> > > kAryaM.  And finally all these details have been floated just to drive
> > home
> > > the point that ornaments are nothing but GOLD but GOLD is NOT ornament
> on
> > > the GOLD nAma rUpa adhyArOpita since GOLD was / is / will always be
> > > nirvishesha and nirlipta.  Itareya bhAshya 1-1-1 would be more relevant
> > > with regard to this.  And Lord’s declaration in Geeta : yasmAt mama
> > > prakrutiH yOniH kAraNaM sarva bhUtAnAM, …..prakrutidvayadvAreNa
> > > (chetanAcheetana prakruti) ahaM sarvajnaH IshwarO jagataH kAraNaM….If
> > > unwarrantedly equates avidyA with mAya/prakruti then brahman becomes
> > > sarvajna through his avidyA 😊 so absurd is it not?? 😊
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> > >
> > > bhaskar
> > >
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