[Advaita-l] How do you explain this?

[V Subrahmanian]

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 5:09 PM Ravi Kiran <ravikiranm108 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Namaste Subbuji
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> A clarification below:
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> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:27 PM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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>> Sada ji,
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>> I shall re-state the four types as follows:
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>> Drk is of four types:
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>> 1. With mAyA as upAdhi, Brahman becomes the dRk  - When we contemplate 'I
>> am Brahman, this whole world is a manifestation/projection of Chit, Pure
>> Consciousness, I have imagined this whole universe due to the avidya made
>> of three gunas.' [This is the second verse of Manisha Panchakam]. Here,
>> the
>> 'i" is nirguna brahman. This contemplation is useful for realizing the
>> Truth. This line is sung from the Jnani's standpoint.  I am the Drk and
>> everything else is drshyam.
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>> 2. With mAya as avaccheda, Ishwara is dRk.:  Here, Ishwara is the sarva
>> jagat saakshi. He is the witness of everything in creation. He does not
>> need to realize anything for he is not a sadhaka; he is admitted to be
>> Jnani. However, he is the sarvadaa sarva saakshi. When Kanakadasa (or any
>> other) said in that story 'I did not find any place where I am not being
>> observed' and hence I came back without eating the plantain.' it is this
>> Ishwara who is the sarva loka saakshi that is meant.
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> >> In the above story, which is more appropriate ? Ishvara or the
> kUTashtha, as saakshi is meant ?
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Ishvara. This is because the context is so. Ultimately Brahman alone is the
drk and all other candidates converge in that Brahman. But for someone to
whom an instruction about Brahman as drk will be difficult to appreciate,
the other steps are provided.

regards
subbu

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> Thanks
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