[Advaita-l] How do you explain this?

[Ravi Kiran]

Namaste Subbuji

A clarification below:

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:27 PM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Sada ji,
>
> I shall re-state the four types as follows:
>
> Drk is of four types:
>
> 1. With mAyA as upAdhi, Brahman becomes the dRk  - When we contemplate 'I
> am Brahman, this whole world is a manifestation/projection of Chit, Pure
> Consciousness, I have imagined this whole universe due to the avidya made
> of three gunas.' [This is the second verse of Manisha Panchakam]. Here, the
> 'i" is nirguna brahman. This contemplation is useful for realizing the
> Truth. This line is sung from the Jnani's standpoint.  I am the Drk and
> everything else is drshyam.
>
> 2. With mAya as avaccheda, Ishwara is dRk.:  Here, Ishwara is the sarva
> jagat saakshi. He is the witness of everything in creation. He does not
> need to realize anything for he is not a sadhaka; he is admitted to be
> Jnani. However, he is the sarvadaa sarva saakshi. When Kanakadasa (or any
> other) said in that story 'I did not find any place where I am not being
> observed' and hence I came back without eating the plantain.' it is this
> Ishwara who is the sarva loka saakshi that is meant.


>> In the above story, which is more appropriate ? Ishvara or the
kUTashtha, as saakshi is meant ?

Thanks


> Here, Ishwara is the
> dRk and the entire creation is drshyam.
>
> 3. With avidya as upAdhi (I assume this), kUTashtha is dRk.   Here, the
> kUTastha is the antahkarana saakshi. Each jiva has this kutastha in him and
> his mental transformations such as sukha, sankalpa, samshaya, etc. are
> revealed to him by this kutastha. This is useful to the jiva, sadhaka, to
> dissociate himself from the body-mind identification and posit himself as
> the kutastha, witnessing consciousness, of his mind. Here, kutastha is
> sakshi and the antahkarana is drshyam. Through the antahkaranam the entire
> creation is drshyam for the jiva.
>
> 4. With avidya as avaccheda, jiva is dRk.   Here the dRk is the pramAtru.
> The pramAtru, the entity who is identified with the mind, body, organs,
> says, I am the doer, knower, seer, hearer, sukhi, duhkhi, samsari, etc.
>  Shankara talks about him in the adhyasa bhashya. Pramatru here is the drk
> and all the dehendriya vyaapaara anubhava is the drshyam.
>
> I think this will be useful in explaining the four types consistently.  It
> is only your further probing that prompted me to think and write the above.
> Thanks.
>
> subbu
>
> All this four-fold difference is only aupAdhika and not real.
>
>
>
> >>
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