[Advaita-l] WHAT AM "I"

[Bharat Anand R<SELFRealization@COSMOSGroup.Org>]

Absolutely Confusing Nonsense

On Fri, 7 Jun 2019, 18:56 Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Akhilesh ji,
>
> Can you please elaborate upon // In a very important sense, the I is
> precisely what is absolutely non-existent, as non-existent as the horn of a
> hare//.
>
> Regards.
> Sudhanshu.
>
> On Fri 7 Jun, 2019, 18:43 Akilesh Ayyar, <ayyar at akilesh.com> wrote:
>
> > Namaste,
> >
> > But my point is that technically, Brahman is beyond I and not-I, is
> beyond
> > is and is not, and is beyond something and nothing. In a very important
> > sense, the I is precisely what is absolutely non-existent, as
> non-existent
> > as the horn of a hare. In the end, nothing can be said that is true, and
> so
> > one must fall silent. It is that living silence which is the real
> > teaching of Vedanta.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:05 AM Sudhanshu Shekhar <
> sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hari Om,
> >>
> >> "I am something" just means that it is not that I am nothing. I am not
> >> horn of hare.. this is what is meant by "I am something".
> >>
> >> What I said abot I is what silence is. It is nothing which can be
> >> conceived of. And yet it is. That silence is not horn of hare. And that
> >> silence cannot be conceived of.
> >>
> >> Sudhanshu.
> >>
> >> On Fri 7 Jun, 2019, 12:29 Akilesh Ayyar via Advaita-l, <
> >> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Namaste,
> >>>
> >>> "Thus, a complete description of I is as follows: I am something. And I
> >>> am
> >>> not that which I can even think about."
> >>>
> >>> Not quite. To say "I am something" is also a thought with all the
> >>> accompanying limitations. Thus the only complete description is
> silence.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 2:28 AM Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l <
> >>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Hari Om,
> >>> >
> >>> > I am something. I am not nothing. And I am not that which I can see,
> >>> hear,
> >>> > smell, touch, taste, feel, decide, or identify with. I am not that
> >>> which I
> >>> > can think or visualize.
> >>> >
> >>> > This is a complete description of myself.
> >>> >
> >>> > Any word of Shruti which appears to describe "I" positively is
> nothing
> >>> but
> >>> > negation alone. "I" cannot be described positively. So words like
> >>> Satyam,
> >>> > Jnanam, Anantam etc are not positive but negative description alone.
> >>> For
> >>> > eg, I am jnanam. So let us not think that Shruti indicates me as some
> >>> sort
> >>> > of "light of awareness" or "consciousness" etc. But She is merely
> >>> saying
> >>> > that I am not jada.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thus, a complete description of I is as follows: I am something. And
> I
> >>> am
> >>> > not that which I can even think about.
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > Sudhanshu.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri 7 Jun, 2019, 09:55 Belavadi Shankar via Advaita-l, <
> >>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Please read Ashtawakra Samhita.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 7:53 AM sreenivasa murthy via Advaita-l <
> >>> > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > Dear friends,WHAT AM " I "? This  is  the  question
> >>> > > > which will be in the mind of
> >>> > > > a sincere student  of  Vedanta.The  answer  for  the  above
> vital
> >>> > > > question  is :
> >>> > > > The  uncreated , unborn,  light of  awareness  is what  I  am.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > That is  the basis  substratum,  andcontainer  of  all
> experiences.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Theworld, senses, body,  mind,  waking, dreaming,  sleeping,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > knowledge,  lack of  knowledge,  consciousness,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > unconsciousness– whatever  can  be framed  as  some
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > kind  of experience—these  are  allappearances  in  this
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > changeless  reality of  my  being.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I  am prior  to  those things  and  yet  Icontain  them  all.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > No  experience is  separate  and apart  from  what I  am.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > UNQUOTE.
> >>> > > > Is it  not  the message  of  the  Upanishads?
> >>> > > > Allof  us should  cognize  this within  ourselves  by   ourselves
> >>> > > > so that we can be krutArthas.
> >>> > > >  Withrespectful namaskars,SreenivasaMurthy.
> >>> > > >
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