[Advaita-l] Partlessness of Brahman and Maya

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

Praveen ji,


//This is also clear in the case of AkAsha, which is आदिमत्, which cannot
be so, if the above sequence of hetus you read is right since it is also
niravaya.//

Not so. p=>q does not mean ~p=>~q. It rather means ~q=>~p. So
anAditva=>niravayatva leads to sAvayavatva=>Adimatva but does not lead to
Adimatva=>sAvayavatva.

On the contrary, if niravayavatva=>anAditva is taken then it will lead to
Adimatva=>sAvayavatva which will contradict with AkAsha case.

Regards.
Sudhanshu.

On Sun 16 Jun, 2019, 13:12 Sudhanshu Shekhar, <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Praveenji,
>
> निरवयवत्वादेव सावयवद्वारकस्य निर्गुणत्वाद्गुणद्वारकस्य च व्ययस्याभावेऽपि
> स्वभावतो व्ययः स्यादित्याशङ्क्याह -- परमात्मेति.
>
> If you see the Anandagiri Tika, it is clear that the sequence is
> anAditva=>niravayavatva=>avyayatva. Isn't it? So the avyatva is through
> niravayavatva and not through "अजो नित्य:" Shruti. There is no occasion to
> bring niravayavatva if it precedes anAditva because the shloka itself uses
> anAditva. One can directly use Shruti अजो नित्य: from Shloka.
>
> In any case, Ananadagiri Tika clearly says निरवयवत्वादेव सावयवद्वारकस्य
> ....... व्ययस्याभावेऽपि.
>
> Sudhanshu.
>
> On Sun 16 Jun, 2019, 12:52 Praveen R. Bhat, <bhatpraveen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 12:37 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <
>> sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry I am not getting your answer correctly. How do you think the
>>> anAditva=>niravayatva=>avyayatva logic applies in the case of avidyA.
>>>
>>
>> I am saying  anAditva=>niravayatva=>avyayatva is really niravayatva=>
>> anAditva=>avyayatva (partless --> based on context,
>> birthless/causeless-->changeless) as from Shankaranandi. As for avidyA, I
>> think it is same as Maya, being upAdAnakAraNa, there is vyaya.
>>
>> This is also clear in the case of AkAsha, which is आदिमत्, which cannot
>> be so, if the above sequence of hetus you read is right since it is also
>> niravaya.
>>
>> Kind rgds,
>> --Praveen R. Bhat
>> /* येनेदं सर्वं विजानाति, तं केन विजानीयात्। Through what should one
>> know That owing to which all this is known! [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
>>
>>>