[Advaita-l] What If Time Is an Illusion?
kuntimaddi sadananda
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Wed Mar 6 09:25:48 EST 2019
<< That is what sushupti or deep sleep state implies - the absence of subject-object duality - hence the ignorance - or akhanda aakaara ajnaana vRitti >>.
Can you please give some reference to where this akhanda aakaara ajnaana vRitti during sushupti is mentioned. I have not come across such a statement.
Chandramouliji - PraNAmsI think it is discussed in the 11th Chapter of Panchadashi - I think there was some discussion with Subbuji and late Shreeman Sastriji. I am not sure Swami Paramarthanandaji covered this chapter. Shree Subbuji can help.
Hari Om!Sadananda
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On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:18 PM kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:
Chandramouliji - PraNAms
The mind is folded only means - the grosser aspect involving subject-object duality is folded. Hence the thoughts are folded - the gap between two sequential thoughts defines the time.
That is what sushupti or deep sleep state implies - the absence of subject-object duality - hence the ignorance - or akhanda aakaara ajnaana vRitti. That result in absence of suffering. Still, the mind is a very subtle form along with chidaabhaasa is there - to keep the body alive with all the physiological functions continuing.
The point is there is no time and space since it is related to the movement of thoughts.
I was criticizing the video that says about the Einstein's description of time and the conclusion is time is relative and depends on the observer. The question that was not posed is - about the observer. The observer has to be independent of the observation of the gap between the two successive events. In essence, he is beyond time - That is what sushupti implies - in a way beyond observed events. ahkandam aakaara implies the observation is eventful.
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On Wednesday, March 6, 2019, 6:44:27 PM GMT+5:30, H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
Namaste.
I have not used the term ** sushupti ** in my response. The term **
during sleep ** in the first sentence of my post cited by Sri Bhaskar Ji
refers to the recollection of the waker.
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On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 5:49 PM Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:
> Surely this must have been experienced during sleep. Otherwise
> recollection is not possible. So mind is not folded and definitely active,
> including triputi during this experience. But there is no notion of time or
> space.
>
> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
>
> The sushuptAtman is sarvOpAdhi vinirmukta ( upAdhi upshAnta sthiti) I
> don’t see any bhAshya vAkya to support that there is triputi and unfolded
> and active upAdhi in sushupti.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> Bhaskar
>
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