[Advaita-l] What If Time Is an Illusion?

[H S Chandramouli]

Pranams Sri Sadananda Ji,

I was really not commenting on your post as such. Nor did I go through the
video. I just thought of taking this opportunity to clarify my
understanding on certain specific aspects of sushupti. With your permission
I will continue with that understanding.

Firstly I was pointing out that there is a state when triputi is present,
but concept of time and space is absent.  That is what I meant in my
earlier post. This does not  gel with your statement now made also

<< The mind is folded only means - the grosser aspect involving
subject-object duality is folded >>

and

<<  That is what sushupti or deep sleep state implies - the absence of
subject-object duality >>.



Yes. I agree that in sushupti, these statements hold good. But my point is
that before the person wakes up, he goes through a state where what I had
stated in my earlier post, and copied here again for ease of reference,
holds good.

<< There is recollection on waking of the type

<< I was very happy during sleep. I did not see anything >>.

Surely this must have been experienced during sleep. Otherwise recollection
is not possible. So mind is not folded and definitely active, including
triputi during this experience. But there is no notion of time or space
>>.



The following is from your latest post

<< That is what sushupti or deep sleep state implies - the absence of
subject-object duality - hence the ignorance - or akhanda aakaara ajnaana
vRitti >>.

Can you please give some reference to where this akhanda aakaara ajnaana
vRitti during sushupti is mentioned. I have not come across such a
statement.

Regards



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On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:18 PM kuntimaddi sadananda <
kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Chandramouliji - PraNAms
>
> The mind is folded only means - the grosser aspect involving
> subject-object duality is folded. Hence the thoughts are folded - the gap
> between two sequential thoughts defines the time.
>
> That is what sushupti or deep sleep state implies - the absence of
> subject-object duality - hence the ignorance - or akhanda aakaara ajnaana
> vRitti. That result in absence of suffering. Still, the mind is a very
> subtle form along with chidaabhaasa is there - to keep the body alive with
> all the physiological functions continuing.
>
> The point is there is no time and space since it is related to the
> movement of thoughts.
>
> I was criticizing the video that says about the Einstein's description of
> time and the conclusion is time is relative and depends on the observer.
> The question that was not posed is - about the observer. The observer has
> to be independent of the observation of the gap between the two successive
> events. In essence, he is beyond time - That is what sushupti implies - in
> a way beyond observed events. ahkandam aakaara implies the observation is
> eventful.
>
>
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
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> On Wednesday, March 6, 2019, 6:44:27 PM GMT+5:30, H S Chandramouli via
> Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>
> Namaste.
>
> I have not used the term  ** sushupti ** in my response.  The term  **
> during sleep ** in the first sentence of my post cited by Sri Bhaskar Ji
> refers to the recollection of the waker.
>
> Regards
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> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 5:49 PM Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:
>
> > Surely this must have been experienced during sleep. Otherwise
> > recollection is not possible. So mind is not folded and definitely
> active,
> > including triputi during this experience. But there is no notion of time
> or
> > space.
> >
> > praNAms
> > Hare Krishna
> >
> > The sushuptAtman is sarvOpAdhi vinirmukta ( upAdhi upshAnta sthiti) I
> > don’t see any bhAshya vAkya to support that there is triputi and unfolded
> > and active upAdhi in sushupti.
> >
> > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> > Bhaskar
> >
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