[Advaita-l] SATCHIDANANDENDRA WORKS-Orthodoxy?

[H S Chandramouli]

Pranams Sadananda Ji,

Reg  << The truth is self-revealed. But it is revealed all the time even
when there is ignorance. The covering is by ajnaana. jnana vRitti just
removes the ajnaana - and in the process, both ajnaana and jnaana vRitti
get dissolved >>

<< That is what is meant by no phala vyaapti >>

<<  In the case of self-knowledge - it is not an objective knowledge and
subject 'I' cannot be objectified. What Vedanta study and associated
vichaara or meditation using Viveka does is to remove only the
misconceptions about myself. There is no separate fruit of this since I am
there all the time  >>

This is where the difference in our respective understandings is. In my
understanding, Truth/Atman/Brahman is all the time veiled or concealed when
there is ajnAna/avidyA. It is revealed automatically when veiling is
destroyed. There is no phala vyApti, but there is Phala. Phala is another
term for Atman/Brahman/truth. Phala vyApti is when knowledge is gained
through chidAbhAsa.

Regards

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On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 12:21 PM Kuntimaddi Sadananda <
kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Chandramouliji - PraNAms
>
> I do not think what you wrote is different from what I had mentioned.
>
> I did mention that there is vRitti vyaapti but no phalavyaapti as it is
> aparoxam.
>
> The truth is self-revealed. But it is revealed all the time even when
> there is ignorance. The covering is by ajnaana. jnana vRitti just removes
> the ajnaana - and in the process, both ajnaana and jnaana vRitti get
> dissolved.
>
> kRitvaa jnaanam swayan nasyet jalam kaTaka renu vat - says Shankara in
> Atmabodha.
>
> That is what is meant by no phala vyaapti.
>
> Mahaavaakya through vichaara is the jnaana vRitti needed to remove the
> ajnaana - Like the winds are needed to remove the clouds blocking the
> vision of the Sun ( even this example is by Shakara only).
>
> Hari Om!
>
> Sadananda
>
> But the cleaning up does not by itself result in the destruction of the
> veil of ajnAna/avidyA covering the Ever Revealing Atman/Brahman. This is my
> understanding.
>
> Regards
>
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