[Advaita-l] jIvanmukti (liberation right in this life) - A State or Status

[H S Chandramouli]

Ramesam Ji,

Namaste.

Reg  << In contrast, some of the modern teachers seem to speak about living
the
life as a *jIvanmukta* reaping the rewards of *jnAna phalam*. >>,

Who are the " modern teachers " being referred to? It would be appropriate
to know at least some of the names if the response to your query could be
meaningful.

Regards

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 8:16 AM Ramesam Vemuri via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaskarams, Subrahmanian Garu.
>
> Thank you for your kind and prompt response. Maybe I should explain a
> little more on what I was trying to say.
>
> The question in my post is more about the duration of the period one spends
> as a* jIvanmukta*. Is it only for a short duration before he leaves the
> body "as a slough shed by a snake" (as the mantra 4.4.7 *brihadAraNyaka*
> says) before the realized individual becomes  *videhamukta* or does the
> seeker, after being liberated, continue to live and "hope to live a long
> life" as a *jIvanmukta*.
>
>
>
> The  6.14.2,chAndogya says that the life as a *jIvanmukta* is for a short
> period only. ( *तस्य **तावदेव **चिरं **यावन्न **विमोक्ष्येऽथ **सम्पत्स्य
> **इति
> **॥* - "For him, only so long is the delay as he is not liberated (from the
> body) and then immediately he is merged in Being."). In other words, one
> does not continue to live in the body for a long time after the attainment
> of Self-realization, akin to the examples of the potter's wheel etc.
>
>
>
> In contrast, some of the modern teachers seem to speak about living the
> life as a *jIvanmukta* reaping the rewards of *jnAna phalam*.
>
>
>
> Of course, there are special historical, *purAnic *and* itihAsic*
> "personalities" specifically working for the betterment of society as
> liberated individuals, but that is a different situation altogether.  I am
> not referring to such individuals.
>
>
> A seeker primarily aims at liberation. S/he does not "hope" at spending the
> life as a* jIvanmukta*. Is there a discernible shift in the teaching?
>
> ***
>
> Thanks Roberto Mallon Fedriani for the reference. I am familiar with  Prof.
> L. E. Nelson's paper on the subject.
>
>
>
> regards,
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:42 AM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The Jivanmukti Viveka of Swami Vidyaranya holds that JM is the ideal that
> > could be achieved by effort.
> >
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