[Advaita-l] 'Sarva-shunya' is impossible!

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Mon May 25 07:11:29 EDT 2020


Namaste Sri Subrahmanian Ji,

Reg  << The
question would arise: But the mind remains?  Yes, the semblance of the
baadhita manas and the prapancha remain and continue to be perceived by the
person with the light of the Sakshi.  After the fall of the body of this
mukta, there is no more perception of the world and the mind body complex
>>,

This would seem to imply that there is nothing like jIvanmukti. Please
excuse me if such an impression is not intended. I do know that such a view
is prevalent among some advaitins. The post from Sri Sadananda Ji also
would seem to imply that.

I am citing below from commentary by HH Sri Chandrashekhara Bharathi
MahaSwaminah on verse 454 of Vivekachudamani.

<< तत्र तुर्यगाख्यभूमिकांगतस्य ब्रह्मवीद्वरिष्ठस्य
केवलनिर्गुणब्रह्मरूपत्वात् परकृतप्रबोधोपि नास्तीति त्रिविधमपि कर्म नास्ति ।

ब्रह्मात्मैक्यमवेक्ष्य साक्षात्कृत्य तन्मयतया स्वार्थे मयट्
ब्रह्मरूपतयेत्यर्थः ये सर्वदा संस्थिताः तुर्यगां भूमिमारूढाः तेषां तत्
त्रितयं त्रिविधमपि कर्म नहि क्वचिदपि कदाचिदपीत्यर्थः । ते निर्गुणं ब्रह्मैव
। >>

<< tatra turyagAkhyabhUmikAMgatasya brahmavIdvariShThasya
kevalanirguNabrahmarUpatvAt parakRRitaprabodhopi nAstIti trividhamapi karma
nAsti |

brahmAtmaikyamavekShya sAkShAtkRRitya tanmayatayA svArthe mayaT
brahmarUpatayetyarthaH ye sarvadA saMsthitAH turyagAM bhUmimArUDhAH teShAM
tat tritayaM trividhamapi karma nahi kvachidapi kadAchidapItyarthaH | te
nirguNaM brahmaiva | >>
Regards



On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:01 PM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 1:55 PM Kuntimaddi Sadananda <
> kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Subbuji PraNAms
> >
> > The external principle as Saakshee is recognized only by Advaitins.
> >
> > ------------
> > So, no one can refute or deny the ephemeral mind and the intellect, and
> the
> > world that is perceived and grasped by such intellect, without admitting
> > the eternal Atman. Why? Because, the mind and the intellect can be
> refuted
> > only through an alternative principle that is different from the mind and
> > intellect.
> >
> > ---------
> >
> > Yes - but that refutation of mind and intellect is done by the mind only!
> >
>
> True, mind alone can and needs to refute the anatma; sakshi has neither the
> need nor the ability to do that. That mind which does that is the 'informed
> mind, su-samksruta manas.'  What is the samskara it gets? The Vedanta
> shaastra provides the samskara to the mind by informing it that the Sakshi
> that is beyond the mind is the Self. So, with this information,, samskara,
> the mind does that discrimination and 'knows' that it has done it.  The
> question would arise: But the mind remains?  Yes, the semblance of the
> baadhita manas and the prapancha remain and continue to be perceived by the
> person with the light of the Sakshi.  After the fall of the body of this
> mukta, there is no more perception of the world and the mind body complex.
>
> Thanks for your observation which is a natural one and needs the above
> explanation.
>
> regards
>
>
> >
> > Just could not resist!
> >
> > Hari Om!
> >
> > Sadananda
> >
> >
> >
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