[Advaita-l] 'Sarva-shunya' is impossible!

[V Subrahmanian]

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 4:41 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Sri Subrahmanian Ji,
>
> Reg  << The
> question would arise: But the mind remains?  Yes, the semblance of the
> baadhita manas and the prapancha remain and continue to be perceived by the
> person with the light of the Sakshi.  After the fall of the body of this
> mukta, there is no more perception of the world and the mind body complex
> >>,
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> This would seem to imply that there is nothing like jIvanmukti. Please
> excuse me if such an impression is not intended. I do know that such a view
> is prevalent among some advaitins. The post from Sri Sadananda Ji also
> would seem to imply that.
>
> I am citing below from commentary by HH Sri Chandrashekhara Bharathi
> MahaSwaminah on verse 454 of Vivekachudamani.
>
> << तत्र तुर्यगाख्यभूमिकांगतस्य ब्रह्मवीद्वरिष्ठस्य
> केवलनिर्गुणब्रह्मरूपत्वात् परकृतप्रबोधोपि नास्तीति त्रिविधमपि कर्म नास्ति ।
>
> ब्रह्मात्मैक्यमवेक्ष्य साक्षात्कृत्य तन्मयतया स्वार्थे मयट्
> ब्रह्मरूपतयेत्यर्थः ये सर्वदा संस्थिताः तुर्यगां भूमिमारूढाः तेषां तत्
> त्रितयं त्रिविधमपि कर्म नहि क्वचिदपि कदाचिदपीत्यर्थः । ते निर्गुणं ब्रह्मैव
> । >>
>

Dear Sri Chandramouli ji,

This is the 7th, ultimate,  bhumika of the bhumika concept where the Jnani
who has gone into samadhi  can never come out of his own nor can others
bring him out.  For him there is no perception of the world nor his own
manas/buddhi activity.  He is completely lost for ever to the world, until
death, after which there is no question of talking about him.

The other bhumika-s lower than this where there is samadhi are
brahmavidvareeyaan 6 bhumika where he goes into samadhi and others can
succeed in bringing him out. For him when he is not in samadhi, the
external world is perceived and manas is active.  Below this is the
brahmavid vara the 5th state where he can go in and come out of his own
from samadhi.  The one below, the 4th is a Jnani but not samadhi type.  So
all these four types are jivanmuktas with the above differences.  So, the
condition I specified in my earlier post will be there for the three types
as above.

warm regards
subbu



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> kevalanirguNabrahmarUpatvAt parakRRitaprabodhopi nAstIti trividhamapi karma
> nAsti |
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> brahmAtmaikyamavekShya sAkShAtkRRitya tanmayatayA svArthe mayaT
> brahmarUpatayetyarthaH ye sarvadA saMsthitAH turyagAM bhUmimArUDhAH teShAM
> tat tritayaM trividhamapi karma nahi kvachidapi kadAchidapItyarthaH | te
> nirguNaM brahmaiva | >>
> Regards
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