[Advaita-l] SAGE UPAMANYU PART 32 - UPAMANYU SAYS SHIVA CAN GRANT THE POST OF BRAHMA, VISHNU & INDRA TO ANYBODY

[Kaushik Chevendra]

The madhwas say such statements are to delude the ayogyas and implant hari
devsha into them.

On Thu, 26 Aug 2021, 11:52 V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:12 AM Keshava Mahadeva via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > https://youtu.be/7-9Y0BwsNdg
> >
> > This video talks about Upamanyu Maharishi explaining that Lord Shiva can
> > grant the position of Brahma, Vishnu & Indra to any individual soul.
> >
>
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> ‘The states of being Brahma, Keshava, Indra, etc. granted by Rudra’
>
> In the Mahabharata in a dialogue Vaishampayana says:
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>
> https://sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/mahabharata/mbhK/mahabharata-k-13-sa.html
>
> *वैशम्पायन उवाच। 13-49-59x (6871)* एतान्यत्यद्भुतान्येव कर्माण्यथ महात्मनः।
> प्रोक्तानि मुनिभिः श्रुत्वा विस्मयामास पाण्डवः॥ 13-49-59 (83443) ततः
> कृष्णोऽब्रवीद्वाक्यं पुनर्मतिमतांवरः। युधिष्ठिरं धर्मनिधिं
> पुरुहूतमिवेश्वरः॥ 13-49-60 (83444) उपमन्युर्मयि प्राह तपन्निव दिवाकरः।
> अशुभैः पापकर्माणो ये नराः कलुषीकृताः॥ 13-49-61 (83445) ईशानं न प्रपद्यन्ते
> तमोराजसवृत्तयः। 13-49-62 (83446) ईश्वरं सम्प्रपद्यन्ते द्विजा भावितभावनाः॥
> 13-49-63 (83447) सर्वथा वर्तमानोपि यो भक्तः परमेश्वरे। सदृशोऽरण्यवासीनां
> मुनीनां भावितात्मनाम्॥ 13-49-64 (83448) ब्रह्मत्वं केशवत्वं वा शक्रत्वं वा
> सुरैः सह। त्रैलोक्यस्याधिपत्यं वा तुष्टो रुद्रः प्रयच्छति 13-49-65
>
> The last verse says: Brahmatvam, Keshavatvam, Shakratvam (Indra) and the
> authority to govern the entire world (three worlds) along with the gods
> will be granted by Rudra when he is propitiated.
> The above edition is a recently thoroughly revised one by a committed team
> which includes renowned Madhva scholars:
> https://sanskritdocuments.org/…/mahabharata-k-13…
> <
> https://sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/mahabharata/mbhK/kannada/mahabharata-k-13-kannada.html?fbclid=IwAR1_BBxIUvoqTjj28WXSWLPvGxz5EUJ-ArT1Huqm9a4MLFE6u6YAONLERsc
> >
> //This
> e-text is based on the `Southern Recension’ of the Mahābhārata, edited by
> Krishnacharya 1906–1914. Prof. Shrinivasa Varakhedi worked on this with the
> support of his research team members, Prof. K. V. Ramakrishnamacharyulu,
> Prof. Amba Kulakarni, Prof. Prahladachar, members of MSP Bangalore and many
> others. Dr. Dominik Wujastyk converted the files to utf-8 IAST encoding and
> Patrick Mc Allister converted them into a single XML file for the SARIT
> project in 2012.//
> The above verse/s are found in other editions which bear the NilakanTha
> commentary too. What is shown above is also the Kumbhakonam edition that
> Madhvas approve of.
> Om
>
> subbu
>
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> > Supporting Upamanyu's statement, additional scriptural proofs related to
> > the temporary state of Brahma, Vishnu and Indra & obtaining the positions
> > of Brahma and Vishnu by individual souls are stated in this video. Proofs
> > are given from the Vedas, Upanishads, Puranas, Upa-Puranas, Ithihaasaas,
> > etc. Please check it out. NAMAH SHIVAYA.
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