[Advaita-l] Perception in lightning

[V Subrahmanian]

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 3:44 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> नमस्ते
> इन्द्रियाणि  पञ्च घ्राणरसनचक्षुःश्रोत्रत्वगात्मकानि । सर्वाणि
> चेन्द्रियाणि स्वस्वविषयसंयुक्तान्येव प्रत्यक्षज्ञानं जनयन्ति । तत्र
> घ्राणरसनत्वगिन्द्रियाणि स्वस्थानस्थितान्येव गन्धरसस्पर्शोपलम्भान् जनयन्ति ।
> चक्षुःश्रोत्रे तु स्वत एव विषयदेशं गत्वा स्वस्वविषयं गृह्णीतः,
> श्रोत्रस्यापि चक्षुरादिवत् परिच्छिन्नतया भेर्यादिदेशगमनसम्भवात् । अत
> एवानुभवो "भेरीशब्दो मया श्रुतः" इति । वीचितरङ्गादिन्यायेन
> कर्णशष्कुलीप्रदेशेऽनन्तशब्दोत्पत्तिकल्पनायां गौरवम् । "भेरीशब्दो मया
> श्रुतः" इति प्रत्यक्षस्य भ्रमत्वकल्पनायां गौरवं च स्यात् । तदेवं व्याख्यातं
> प्रत्यक्षम् ।
>

Thanks for the correct view.

>
>
> (वेदान्त परिभाषा)
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> On Sun, 9 May 2021, 15:11 V Subrahmanian, <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 1:10 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hari Om,
>>>
>>> In case of visual and audible perception, mind is said to go out along
>>> with
>>> chakshu and shrota indriya and make contact with vishaya and turn
>>> vishayAkAra. Reflection of chaitanya then gives rise to visual and
>>> audible
>>> perception.
>>>
>>
>> As far as I know, the situation in Advaita is: the shrotrendriya does not
>> go out but the sound reaches the indriya by a veechi-taranga-nyaya: The
>> sound, at the locus of its origin, produces waves and through the waves it
>> reaches the organ/indriya of the hearer.  In the case of chakshuh, as you
>> have stated, the indriya goes out through the manovritti and contacts the
>> object/form/color outside.  I am not aware if any other view is there in
>> Advaita for explaining the sound perception.
>>
>> regards
>> subbu
>>
>>>
>>> In case of lightning, if the mind reaches there simultaneously with
>>> shrotra
>>> and chakshu, the perception of light and sound should be simultaneous.
>>> But
>>> this is not the case.
>>>
>>> If the mind does not reach there simultaneously, then the conclusion
>>> would
>>> be attribution of different speeds to mind+chakshu vis-a-vis
>>> mind+shrotra.
>>>
>>> How to understand it in the traditional framework.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
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