[Advaita-l] Perception in lightning

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

नमस्ते
इन्द्रियाणि  पञ्च घ्राणरसनचक्षुःश्रोत्रत्वगात्मकानि । सर्वाणि चेन्द्रियाणि
स्वस्वविषयसंयुक्तान्येव प्रत्यक्षज्ञानं जनयन्ति । तत्र
घ्राणरसनत्वगिन्द्रियाणि स्वस्थानस्थितान्येव गन्धरसस्पर्शोपलम्भान् जनयन्ति ।
चक्षुःश्रोत्रे तु स्वत एव विषयदेशं गत्वा स्वस्वविषयं गृह्णीतः,
श्रोत्रस्यापि चक्षुरादिवत्
परिच्छिन्नतया भेर्यादिदेशगमनसम्भवात् । अत एवानुभवो "भेरीशब्दो मया श्रुतः"
इति । वीचितरङ्गादिन्यायेन कर्णशष्कुलीप्रदेशेऽनन्तशब्दोत्पत्तिकल्पनायां
गौरवम् । "भेरीशब्दो मया श्रुतः" इति प्रत्यक्षस्य भ्रमत्वकल्पनायां गौरवं च
स्यात् । तदेवं व्याख्यातं प्रत्यक्षम् ।

(वेदान्त परिभाषा)
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On Sun, 9 May 2021, 15:11 V Subrahmanian, <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 1:10 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Hari Om,
>>
>> In case of visual and audible perception, mind is said to go out along
>> with
>> chakshu and shrota indriya and make contact with vishaya and turn
>> vishayAkAra. Reflection of chaitanya then gives rise to visual and audible
>> perception.
>>
>
> As far as I know, the situation in Advaita is: the shrotrendriya does not
> go out but the sound reaches the indriya by a veechi-taranga-nyaya: The
> sound, at the locus of its origin, produces waves and through the waves it
> reaches the organ/indriya of the hearer.  In the case of chakshuh, as you
> have stated, the indriya goes out through the manovritti and contacts the
> object/form/color outside.  I am not aware if any other view is there in
> Advaita for explaining the sound perception.
>
> regards
> subbu
>
>>
>> In case of lightning, if the mind reaches there simultaneously with
>> shrotra
>> and chakshu, the perception of light and sound should be simultaneous. But
>> this is not the case.
>>
>> If the mind does not reach there simultaneously, then the conclusion would
>> be attribution of different speeds to mind+chakshu vis-a-vis mind+shrotra.
>>
>> How to understand it in the traditional framework.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
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