[Advaita-l] Perception in lightning

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

The answer by Mani Dravid Shastri ji is the only alternative. That m+s
reach later than m+c.

But problem is that once s reached there, it is there. So subsequent
perceptions for a person stationed there at the site of source and one
located say 3.3 km away should be same. For both mind and shrotra are there
at the site for both observers.

Regarding Praveen Bhat ji's question as to how to assert that two sounds
are same.. frequency can be modulated. If two sounds have same frequency,
there is no way to distinguish between them. They will have same
wavelength, same energy. So it can be averred that vishaya is same and
hence no fresh requirement of shrotra issuing forth and mind issuing forth.

Chittranjan Naik ji has proposed simultaneity experiment for visual
perception. But it is very expensive. My point is that visual and auditory
perception have same mechanism in Vedanta. So simultaneity experiment is
very well performable for auditory perception. It won't be expensive
either.

Regards.

On Mon, 10 May, 2021, 12:08 pm H S Chandramouli, <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste.
>
> Reg  << While talking to Sri Mani Dravid Sastrigal about the question, he
> was of
> the opinion that the mind with the shrotrendriyam reaches the vishaya desha
> 'after' the m + c indirya.  There is no upapatti as such to account for the
> relatively slow movement of the m + s >>.
>
> We may have to say that such is their 'svabhava'.  'दृष्टानुरोधकल्पना >>,
>
> I had raised the possibility just to point out that there can really be no
> specific objection to such a postulate. There may be no need or upapatti
> either or the same.
>
> However another point may be mentioned. Lightning and thunder occupy such
> a vast space that there is no way of identifying any specific common
> location for their origin. Hence the observation
>
> << In case of lightning, if the mind reaches there simultaneously with
> shrotra
> and chakshu, the perception of light and sound should be simultaneous. But
> this is not the case >>
>
> is perhaps not valid.
>
> Regards
>
> Chandramouli
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:45 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> While talking to Sri Mani Dravid Sastrigal about the question, he was of
>> the opinion that the mind with the shrotrendriyam reaches the vishaya
>> desha
>> 'after' the m + c indirya.  There is no upapatti as such to account for
>> the
>> relatively slow movement of the m + s.
>>
>> We may have to say that such is their 'svabhava'.  'दृष्टानुरोधकल्पना'.
>>
>> regards
>> subbu
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
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