[Advaita-l] Perception in lightning

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste Sudhanshu Ji,

It is not essential that travel for shabda must be accepted. For those who
would like to consider it, the reasoning would still be valid.

In case of lightning and thunder we are considering, travel could be taken
into account only for light. The reasoning would still be valid.

As I had mentioned earlier also, there is no specific location that can be
identified for production of light and sound in this example.

Regards

Chandramouli

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On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 3:54 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Chandramouli ji,
>
> //These locations need not be the same as their origin.//
>
> In SiddhAnta, perception is said to be at the place of origin. Also,
> shabda does not travel from place of origin to some other place of
> perception. If it does, then how exactly does it happen. Clearly
> veechi-tarang is refuted..
>
> Regards.
>
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 12:16 AM H S Chandramouli <
> hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Namaste.
>>
>> The following could perhaps form the basis for a resolution of the issue.
>>
>> What is cognized through vision is the rUpa (color) of the Vishaya. It
>> could be considered as the light enveloping the object or emanating from it
>> (in the case of lightning for example) as the case may be. While ‘being
>>  distant’ is also perceived in the cognition, the actual location is not
>> when the distance is large. Same with shabda or sound. While the sound is
>> cognized as well as it being ‘distant’, exact distance is not involved in
>> the cognition.
>>
>> We can now consider ‘where’  the cognition takes place when all the three
>> involved in the cognition; namely antahkarana vritti,rUpa or light
>> enveloping/emnating from the object, and shabda or sound emanating from the
>> object;  all three are in motion, and the distances between the objects and
>> the experience are large.The location where visual cognition takes place
>> can be considered as the location where the rUpa or light enveloping the
>> object or emanating from it is coincident with the antahkarana vritti
>> issuing forth through the eyes. Similarly for the cognition of sound. These
>> locations need not be the same as their origin. When distances involved are
>> negligible compared to their speeds, location of cognition will be
>> practically the same as the object. When distances are large, they could be
>> quite different.
>>
>> This explains the reason for cognition taking place at different times in
>> case of lightning and thunder for example. This would also cover anomalies
>> in respect of cognition of very distant stars/planets etc.
>>
>> Regards
>> Chandramouli
>>
>>
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