[Advaita-l] Fwd: Perception in lightning

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste.

Sri Bhagavatpada has briefly touched upon the topic of echo somewhere in
the Bhashya. I am not able to locate the same just now. If anyone is aware
of the same, please let me know.

Regards

Chandramouli

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On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 1:26 AM Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste
>
> True When the mind is interested in giving explanations for Anatma Vastu
> there is doubt and fear. There will be arguments and disagreements about
> who is correct and who is wrong about Anatma vastu. Now if we focus on Atma
> only there will be agreement because nobody can have disagreement on his
> own Existence. Every person will agree He Exists and He is Consciousness
> also. But he does not know he is Pure Happiness also. He searches for
> happiness in outside Anatma things but it is always there with him. What is
> to be done?
>
> Mind must not go out and it must turn inwards. In this discussion I see
> everybody is discussing about Mind going Out with the Indriyas like Eye and
> Ear. It is the wrong thing to do for the Mind to go out. It must be made to
> turn Inwards only. If it goes Out with some organ it is like searching for
> water in Mirage. There is nothing for the Mind outside.
>
> The above has shown Perception through Indriyas is a useless exercise. If
> it is a useless exercise why should we discuss it? It is like two persons
> arguing about the taste of Mirage water. One says it is sweet and another
> says it is salty. Who cares?
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 8:51 AM sreenivasa murthy via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> >  Dear friends,
> > The first line of Mantra 2-2-12 of Mundaka upanishad reads thus :
> > brahma Eva idam amRutaM purastAt ||Sri Shankara in his commentary to the
> > above line writes thus:      brahmaiva uktalaShaNam (amRutam)
> >       idaM yat tat purastAt agrE
> >       abrahmEva avidyAdRuShTInAM pratyavaBAsamAnam ||
> > From the above commentary it can be concluded thatall the discussions
> that
> > are taking place about 'perception in lightning'which come under the
> > category of a abrahmavastu which is due to
> > avidyAdRuShTi.Is it worth to devote so much time and energy about such a
> > vastu?
> > Is it not much more beneficial to give up avidyadRuShTi by acquiring
> > vidyAdRuShti and cognize all this sarvam is Brahman only?
> > Is it not what Sri Shankara expects from the the students of Advaita
> > Vedanta?
> >
> > The above thoughts came to me as I was going through all the postings on
> > the above subject.
> > I may please be pardoned for sharing these thoughts of mine.
> > With respectful namaskars,Sreenivasa Murthy
> >
> >
> >     On Wednesday, 12 May, 2021, 5:06:26 pm GMT+1, V Subrahmanian via
> > Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> >  Here is an observation by the author of the Vanamaala gloss on the
> > Taittiriya Upanishad bhashyam:
> >
> > तत्र संशयनिश्चयरूपयोर्वृत्त्योरेव बहिर्विषयदेशे चक्षुरादिद्वारा निर्गमनं
> > पुनः स्वाश्रयं प्रत्यागमनरूपं सङ्क्रमणं च दृश्यते, न तु
> > साक्षान्मनोमयविज्ञानमययोर्बहिर्निर्गमनं स्वात्मनां प्रत्यागमनरूपं च
> > सङ्क्रमणं दृश्यते, न च सम्भवति, स्वात्मनि स्वस्यैव प्रवेशादिक्रियाया
> > विरुद्धत्वादित्यर्थः ।
> >
> > What we see here is: when it is said that the mind / manas 'goes out' it
> is
> > the aspect of samshaya nishchaya vritti that goes out to the vishaya
> desha
> > and 'returns' and not the very manomaya or vijanamaya kosha that 'goes
> out'
> > and 'returns'.
> >
> > This gives us a clarification that 'there is no contingency of the jiva
> > remaining without the manas/buddhi when it goes out to contact the
> > vishayadesha.  The upapatti involved here is: the manas/buddhi is
> sAvayava
> > and thus an amsha can very well go out and come.  I think this can be
> > extended to the case of the indriya too, even though there is no
> prasiddhi
> > in the shaastra for the sAvayavatva of the indriya, as far as I know.
> >
> > regards
> > subbu
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
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