[Advaita-l] Krama mukthi in advaitha siddhantam.

[Raghav Kumar Dwivedula]

In advaita vedanta, vaikuNTha and kailAsha are understood to be part of or
located in brahmaloka in the seven loka hierarchy beginning bhUH, bhuvah
etc.

Also its incorrect to say there is no time and space in vaikuNTha because
even vaiShNavas accept that mahaviShNu can move and interact with other
jIvas who have attained salokya (residence in vaikuNTha). You can see Sri
Jaldhar's reply for details about salokya, sArUpya etc.


On Tue, 18 May, 2021, 10:25 am Aravind M via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> There is no concept of time and space in vaikunta and kailasham according
> to sri vaishnava and shaiva siddhantam...So how the concept of kalpas is
> applicable to these krama mukthi lokas????
>
> On Tue 18 May, 2021, 1:12 AM Jaldhar H. Vyas via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 17 May 2021, Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l wrote:
> >
> > > Namaste
> > > There are a few such stories/accounts of a resident of even kailasha
> and
> > > vaikuntha having to return to bhUloka.
> > >
> > > The way to reconcile this is in brahma sutra bhAShya where it is said
> > that
> > > the residents of brahma loka do not return to this loka anymore, in
> this
> > > kalpa (cycle of creation), implying that they may do so in some cases
> in
> > > the next cycle.
> > >
> > > One acharya once said that this is to account for those rare cases of
> > > someone who attains brahmaloka through repeated ashvamedhA sacrifices
> and
> > > other special rituals.
> > >
> > > In such cases, there may not be enough motivation towards GYAnam etc.,
> > and
> > > they return to complete their journeys in the next kalpa.
> > >
> >
> > It must be noted that Jaya and Vijaya were given the choice to spend
> seven
> > lifetimes of exile as Haridasa or three lifetimes as Haridushmana.  They
> > chose the latter because of their eagerness to reurn to Bhagavans
> > presence.  So I don't think we can call this a fall exactly but it does
> > indicate imperfect jnana.
> >
> > --
> > Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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