[Advaita-l] Krama mukthi in advaitha siddhantam.

Aravind M aravindeie13 at gmail.com
Mon May 17 23:37:14 EDT 2021

There is no concept of time and space in vaikunta and kailasham according
to sri vaishnava and shaiva siddhantam...So how the concept of kalpas is
applicable to these krama mukthi lokas????

On Tue 18 May, 2021, 1:12 AM Jaldhar H. Vyas via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 May 2021, Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l wrote:
> > Namaste
> > There are a few such stories/accounts of a resident of even kailasha and
> > vaikuntha having to return to bhUloka.
> >
> > The way to reconcile this is in brahma sutra bhAShya where it is said
> that
> > the residents of brahma loka do not return to this loka anymore, in this
> > kalpa (cycle of creation), implying that they may do so in some cases in
> > the next cycle.
> >
> > One acharya once said that this is to account for those rare cases of
> > someone who attains brahmaloka through repeated ashvamedhA sacrifices and
> > other special rituals.
> >
> > In such cases, there may not be enough motivation towards GYAnam etc.,
> and
> > they return to complete their journeys in the next kalpa.
> >
> It must be noted that Jaya and Vijaya were given the choice to spend seven
> lifetimes of exile as Haridasa or three lifetimes as Haridushmana.  They
> chose the latter because of their eagerness to reurn to Bhagavans
> presence.  So I don't think we can call this a fall exactly but it does
> indicate imperfect jnana.
> --
> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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