[Advaita-l] Avachheda Vaada

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste
I agree, I don't think Bhamati advocates chaitanya pratibimbavAda, but the
wording seems to indicate that the bhAmatikAra is not against it as a
matter of principle.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan


On Sun, 5 Sep 2021, 13:46 H S Chandramouli, <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste.
>
> The cited quote from Bhamati reflects, I think, what all the commentators
> agree upon. That is, that Sakshatkara is by way of Brahman “revealing”
> itself in Vritti and that can only be through pratibimba, vritti being of a
> lower order of Reality.  However that, in my understanding, does not mean
> Bhamati supports Pratibimba vAda in which the Pratibimba plays a major role
> in explaining various aspects of Sidhanta. Such is not the case with
> Bhamati .  I am not suggesting that you seem to imply that. Only clarifying
> my understanding.
> Regards
>
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> On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 10:21 PM Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste,
>> One would think that, but surprisingly, the bhAmatikAra (a proponent of
>> avacCheda vAda and a supposed opponent of pratibimbavAda) says
>> - अन्यथा चैतन्यच्छायापत्तिं विनान्तःकरणवृत्तेः स्वयमचेतनायाः स्वप्रकाशत्वानुपपत्तौ साक्षात्कारत्वायोगात् -
>> he does not seem to refute chaitanya pratibimba.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Venkatraghavan
>>
>> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021, 10:32 H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l, <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste.
>>>
>>> I dont think the concept of ChitChaya forms a part of Avachheda Vaada.
>>>
>>> Regards
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>>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 12:18 PM Jaldhar H. Vyas via Advaita-l <
>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, smallpress via Advaita-l wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Please help me get some clarity about this particular view of the
>>> > > ChitChhaya aikyam with Buddhi.
>>> >
>>> > > I am trying to search through the archives for discussions on the
>>> > subject but I forgot how to perform that search.
>>> > > I would appreciate if someone could point me to links and also
>>> > instruction on the search.
>>> > > Thank you for you kindness.
>>> > > Soma
>>> >
>>> > Actually, I don't remember us having discussed this topic.  I will be
>>> the
>>> > first to admit the search faciity in our site is not very good.  One of
>>> > these days I will get around to improving it.  In the mean time, I
>>> > recommend searching google but adding site:lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>>> to
>>> > the search term.
>>> >
>>> > Google is infinite (or seems so!) sites:lists.advaita-vedanta.org is
>>> the
>>> > avachhedaka so when you do a search which includes it you only get the
>>> > finite part of Google pertaining to lists.advaita-vedanta.org.
>>> >
>>> > In the same way, Brahman is all-pervading but due to maya as the
>>> limitor,
>>> > our perception is distorted and it appears to be something finite.
>>> When
>>> > maya is dispelled through jnana we are able to apprehend Brahman in
>>> > fullness.
>>> >
>>> > The more classic example is the sky and pot.  The sky extends
>>> indefinitely
>>> > in all directions but if you look into the mouth of a pot, the sky
>>> within
>>> > appears to have definite dimensions.  The pot is the avacchedaka.  When
>>> > you look outside of the pot you perceive the sky in all its glory
>>> again.
>>> >
>>> > This view is particularly developed by the Bhamatikara (though based on
>>> > prasthana trayi of course.)  Not all Advaitins have agreed with it.
>>> >
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