[Advaita-l] Parmana

[V Subrahmanian]

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:36 PM Anand N <anand.natampalli at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste Subbuji,
>
> To gain more clarity, I have a follow up question:
> So, if I see a tree, then it is Pratyaksha but Paroksha, since I am using
> my eyes?
>

Alright, it is through pratyaksha pramana the tree is known. Even when the
eye is used, it is aparoksha alone. If I see fire with my eyes in a
mountain, it is pratyaksha. But if I infer fire there from the smoke that I
see there, then the fire-knowledge I gain, though valid, is paroksha. It is
called anumiti-jnanam. Akasha is said to be a-pratyaksha since it is not
indriyagochara. Atman too is a-pratyaksha for the same reason. But it is
aparoksha for all of us since it is immediate; not mediated by any other
agent.  Emotions that arise in one's mind are saakshi-pratyaksha. Our
avidya is also aparoksha to us and hence alone the antidote for it is
aparoksha jnana.

I think the above is in tune with the Vedanta paribhasha.

warm regards
subbu

>
> Om Namo Narayanaya,
> Anand
>
> On Fri 15. Apr 2022 at 18:32, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 9:40 PM Anand N via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste,
>>>
>>> When we talk about the 6 Pramanas, where do emotions like love, anger or
>>> sensations like hunger, thirst etc land?
>>> Are they in the category of Pratyaksha?
>>> Are they Aparoksha?
>>> Can someone please elaborate more on this.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, they are pratyaksha, aparoksha for the one who has them and
>> paroksha, anumeya, for others (others, from the body language, etc. of X
>> infer these in him)
>>
>> Here is a Vivekachudamani verse:
>> बन्धो मोक्षस्य तृप्तिश्च चिन्तारोग्यक्षुधादयः ।
>> स्वेनैव वेद्या यज्ज्ञानं परेषामानुमानिकम् ॥ ४७६ ॥
>> 475. Bondage, liberation, satisfaction, anxiety, recovery from illness,
>> hunger and other such things are known only to the man concerned, and
>> knowledge of these to others is a mere inference.
>>
>> regards
>> subbu
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Om Namo Narayanaya,
>>> Anand
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