[Advaita-l] Parmana

[Praveen R. Bhat]

Namaste Anand ji,

It seems to me that you are using parokSha and aparokSha quite differently
than what they mean in the Vedanta tradition.

For what it is worth, pratyakSha and aparokSha can be mostly used
interchangeably. pratyakSha is not only reserved for those that you cognise
through your sense organs, but also your emotions, etc, since they are
pratyakSha to the sAkShI you and thereby called as sAkShi-pratyakSha.
parokSha is outside this fold. For example, lets say you hear of svarga or
other lokas described in Vedas or purANas as chanted or narrated by
someone; the hearing of those words is pratyakSha but the lokas themselves
remain parokSha. So too Ishvara!

gurupAdukAbhyAm,
--Praveen R. Bhat
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On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:36 PM Anand N via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Subbuji,
>
> To gain more clarity, I have a follow up question:
> So, if I see a tree, then it is Pratyaksha but Paroksha, since I am using
> my eyes?
>
> Om Namo Narayanaya,
> Anand
>
> On Fri 15. Apr 2022 at 18:32, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 9:40 PM Anand N via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Namaste,
> >>
> >> When we talk about the 6 Pramanas, where do emotions like love, anger or
> >> sensations like hunger, thirst etc land?
> >> Are they in the category of Pratyaksha?
> >> Are they Aparoksha?
> >> Can someone please elaborate more on this.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, they are pratyaksha, aparoksha for the one who has them and
> paroksha,
> > anumeya, for others (others, from the body language, etc. of X infer
> these
> > in him)
> >
> > Here is a Vivekachudamani verse:
> > बन्धो मोक्षस्य तृप्तिश्च चिन्तारोग्यक्षुधादयः ।
> > स्वेनैव वेद्या यज्ज्ञानं परेषामानुमानिकम् ॥ ४७६ ॥
> > 475. Bondage, liberation, satisfaction, anxiety, recovery from illness,
> > hunger and other such things are known only to the man concerned, and
> > knowledge of these to others is a mere inference.
> >
> > regards
> > subbu
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Om Namo Narayanaya,
> >> Anand
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