[Advaita-l] Parmana

[sreenivasa murthy]

 Dear Sri Anand,
What is the nature of the pramAtRu who exists prior to pramnasbeing applied? Have you enquired in that direction?Kindly note that that YOU the Atman is apramEya.YOU ARE NEITHER PRAMANA NOR PRAMEYA.Probably you may be familiar with this shloka fromSri Shankara :manObuddhyaMkAracittAni nAhaMna ca SrotrajihvE na ca GrANanEtrE ||What is the use of knowing about anAtma?With namaskars,Sreenivasa Murthy

   On Friday, 1 July, 2022 at 09:04:36 am GMT+1, Anand N via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:  
 
 Namaste,

now I have more confusion about Pramana :-)
I think I have been using or understanding the term as a layman
without understanding its implications and deeper connotations.
I will study the link provided by Sadanandaji.

Shri Gurubhyo Namaha 🙏
Om Namo Narayanaya,
Anand


On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 at 09:25, Praveen R. Bhat via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Anandji,
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 12:25 PM Anand N via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > If we take the example of I see smoke on the mountain, so I infer there
> may
> > be a fire. When I start moving towards the mountain, I notice that it is
> > actually mist rising.
> > Here Anumana is then corrected by Pratyaksha. That's what I was trying to
> > say when I meant one Pramana was not enough. Maybe this is technically
> > wrong when one is
> > using the word Pramana. Please correct me.
> >
> In your example, to be precise, anumAna was not really corrected, as it was
> based on false pratyakSha of smoke, so that false pratyakSha is corrected
> by right pratyakSha of mist later. I get what you meant to say though.
> However, what I wanted to stress is that one may not be sure as to which
> pramANa applies in a particular case, but there is only one pramANa
> applicable.
>
> However I think the importance of Rasa is
> > also to be seen. Otherwise we wouldn't have
> > Stotrams from Sannyasis or Gurus in beautiful Chandas, or songs composed
> by
> > them in different ragas etc.
> >
>
> My response was focused towards the usage of the word pramANa, the very
> subject line!  Something not being a pramANa doesn't undermine its
> importance in any way for the purposes it is meant. On a lighter note,
> svapna is no pramANa, but we do wish others "sweet dreams". :-)
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