[Advaita-l] Binary nature of Jnana

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Tue Jul 5 11:05:53 EDT 2022


Namaste Anand Ji,

I am afraid my understanding on many of the conclusions you have listed are
entirely different. Nodoubt these came up during the course of this thread,
but I did not feel like diverting my attention from the topic I had already
taken up in the thread for a closer understanding. Especially on definition
of a jnAni, role of Shravana/manana/nididhyasana etc. In many cases, you
had yourself broughtout alternative understandings on some of these issues.
Others had also pointed out, bud did not pursue. I am not going into the
details. But just did not want to convey the impression that what you have
summarized were the final conclusions arrived at in this thread.

Regards

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On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 5:51 PM Anand N via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste,
>
> Some key take aways for me from the rather technical discussion, which I
> have simplified (hopefully not oversimplified):
> 1. When one attains Jnana, one cannot fall back to Ajnana. Hence it is
> binary in nature.
> 2. When one attains Jnana, one may practice Nididhyasana in order to
> counter Viparita Bhavana
> 3. Nididhyasana is post jnana. Until Jnana it is only Manana. Even Vedantic
> Meditations can be considered only as Nirguna Upasana/Dhyana and not
> Nididhyasana.
> 4. Even though one is a Jnani, if Viparita Bhavana is strong then there is
> a possibility of rebirth and there is no guarantee of Videha Mukti
> 5. The last thought at the time of death determining one's rebirth is
> applicable to an Ajnani only.
> 6. The word Brahmanishta can be used for Ajnani and Jnani as well. It all
> depends on the context where the word occurs.
>
> Please correct me if I have stated something wrong.
>
> Om Namo Narayanaya,
> Anand
>
>
> On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 at 13:09, Praveen R. Bhat via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Namaste,
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 10:48 PM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > > That the last thought, irrespective of the content of that thought,
> which
> > > is involuntary no doubt, that occurs or arises to the aparoksha Jnani
> at
> > > the moment of death has no say whatsoever on his liberated state which
> is
> > > guaranteed beyond any doubt whatsoever, is thus discussed and settled
> by
> > > Swami Vidyaranya with reason at the the end of the second chapter of
> the
> > > Panchadashi:
> > >
> >
> > I'm happy that Subbuji has with lot of sources shown a flaw in
> considering
> > the last thought before death for an aparokSha jnAnI as important during
> my
> > reply to Raghavji. That was only for Raghavji's setting the context that
> a
> > glimpse of jnAna may not give videhamukti. Yes, his nididhyAsana is not
> > nididhyAsana, but nirguNa dhyAna, which will bring the importance of the
> > last thought at death back into the picture!
> >
> > gurupAdukAbhyAm,
> > --Praveen R. Bhat
> > /* येनेदं सर्वं विजानाति, तं केन विजानीयात्। Through what should one know
> > That, owing to which all this is known! [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
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