[Advaita-l] [advaitin] The nature of mUlAvidyA as per mUlAvidyAvAdins

[Michael Chandra Cohen]

kudos dear Bhaskarji, Exactly what this discussion needed is background on
the whole argument and you presented succinctly. I hope Jaishankara
Narayanji and V. Subramanyanji will be kind enough to stipulate OR amend
your enumeration of the ideas that originated with Padmapada, Sankara's
direct disciple, that continue in vogue today in all popular Advaita
tradition and who we are calling MulAvidya vada.

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On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 6:38 AM 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <
advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:

> praNAms Sri Subbu prabhuji
>
> Hare Krishna
>
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> Thanks Bhaskar ji  for making these points.  Have you or has anybody come
> across citations from Shri SSS'  works  where he quotes the  later
> commentators  who have  explicitly said that the mula avidya and or avidya
> lesha  is  trikaala abaadhya, absolutely real as Brahman is.
>
> Such a statement / citation seen in his works  may kindly be  reproduced
> along with reference. That will help a lot. From the points that you have
> listed this element is not brought out and hence this request.
>
>
>
> Ø    I have not come across such an explicit statement in Sri SSS’s works
> (  I may not be aware of it!!)  But in one of his works (if I remember
> right) he asks :  since mUlAvidyAvAdins accept the existence of this
> mUlAvidhyA ( definition (j) in my previous mail) in all the three states
> (avasthAtraya) why we should not say it is on par with brahman??  And
> further enquires if the mUlAvidyA does not exist in the state of nirvikalpa
> samAdhi, how the experiencer of NS get back to waking (normal) state?? what
> is the nimitta for his coming back??  If experiencer of NS does not come
> back and if at all NS is the absolute state (devoid of any avidyA including
> mUlAvidyA) and if we say person who experiences this does not come back and
> merges in that state forever, who will be there for us to explain the
> muktAnubhava??  If the tUlAvidyA (jeeva level) is eradicated through jnana
> how jnAnavirOdhi mUlAvidyA which has the brahmAshraya can be eradicated
> that too when it is not antaHkaraNa dharma??
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>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>
> bhaskar
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