[Advaita-l] [advaitin] The nature of mUlAvidyA as per mUlAvidyAvAdins

[Jaishankar Narayanan]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

Let me answer the below questions as the other questions become irrelevant
if you understand this

Question: since mUlAvidyAvAdins accept the existence of this mUlAvidhyA (
definition (j) in my previous mail) in all the three states (avasthAtraya)
why we should not say it is on par with brahman??

Answer: It does not exist independently like brahman. It exists as asat as
defined by Bhasyakara in 2.16 of BG Bhashya and Tai Up Bh 2.1 and as vikara
as defined in Chandogya 6th chapter. So its existence does not count as
real existence. It is called as exists only in the sense that it is
perceived unlike a Vandhyaa-Putra in which category falls the jnAna-abhAva
proposed by SSS.

with love and prayers,
Jaishankar

On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 5:08 PM 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <
advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:

> praNAms Sri Subbu prabhuji
>
> Hare Krishna
>
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>
> Thanks Bhaskar ji  for making these points.  Have you or has anybody come
> across citations from Shri SSS'  works  where he quotes the  later
> commentators  who have  explicitly said that the mula avidya and or avidya
> lesha  is  trikaala abaadhya, absolutely real as Brahman is.
>
> Such a statement / citation seen in his works  may kindly be  reproduced
> along with reference. That will help a lot. From the points that you have
> listed this element is not brought out and hence this request.
>
>
>
> Ø    I have not come across such an explicit statement in Sri SSS’s works
> (  I may not be aware of it!!)  But in one of his works (if I remember
> right) he asks :  since mUlAvidyAvAdins accept the existence of this
> mUlAvidhyA ( definition (j) in my previous mail) in all the three states
> (avasthAtraya) why we should not say it is on par with brahman??  And
> further enquires if the mUlAvidyA does not exist in the state of nirvikalpa
> samAdhi, how the experiencer of NS get back to waking (normal) state?? what
> is the nimitta for his coming back??  If experiencer of NS does not come
> back and if at all NS is the absolute state (devoid of any avidyA including
> mUlAvidyA) and if we say person who experiences this does not come back and
> merges in that state forever, who will be there for us to explain the
> muktAnubhava??  If the tUlAvidyA (jeeva level) is eradicated through jnana
> how jnAnavirOdhi mUlAvidyA which has the brahmAshraya can be eradicated
> that too when it is not antaHkaraNa dharma??
>
>
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>
> bhaskar
>
>
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