[Advaita-l] [advaitin] rAma-krishna-shiva-durga etc. are not same in shAstric vyavahAra!!!

[Bhaskar YR]

praNAms Sri Venkatraghavan prabhuji
Hare Krishna

This is also correct, on the basis of the shruti कार्योपाधिरयं जीवः कारणोपाधिरीश्वरः. The name and form for Ishvara is not karma phala janita - so none of Vishnu, Shiva, Devi, etc are karma phala janita upAdhi, they are all mAyAmaya upAdhi / kAraNopAdhi.


  *   Just I was thinking of closing this discussion since on most of the terms we are in agreement.  But this shruti reference I am not able to find it in dashOpanishat ( I might have missed it)  Kindly share up. Reference and shankara bhAshya on kAryOpAdnirayaM jeevaH kAraNOAdhireeshwaraH.  When it comes to upAdhi I think bhAshyakAra said upAdhi is avidyAkruta.  This is not about kAryOpAdhi, this is about kAraNOpAdhi of Ishwara, shankara explicitly says : evamavidyAkrutanAmarUpOpAdhyanurOdhi IshwarO bhavati…subsequent observations of bhAshyakAra substantiate this i.e.  even IshrOpAdhi is mere avidyAkruta hence his sarvajnatvaM, sharvashatitvaM etc. valid only in avidyA kshetra.  And in samanvayAdhikaraNa bhAshya bhAshyakAra talks about apekshitOpAdhisambandhaM.  (ekamekamapi brahma  apekshitOpAdhisambandhaM nirastOpAdhi sambandhaM cha upAsyatvena jneyatvena cha vedAnteshUpadishyate.  What is apekshti upAdhi here of upAsaka??  And how it is not kAryOpAdhi but kAraNOpAdhi of Ishwara??  Please clarify.
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar