[Advaita-l] [advaitin] RE: The fate of mind after realization

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Wed Jan 25 04:19:49 EST 2023


Namaste Sunil Ji,

Reg  <<  *The Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his
or her manah is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he
or she is in  the manah-shunya state >>,*

When his or her manah is not affected by the *illusionary Vyavaharika * world,
what **exists**  and is experienced as such by him/her  is just
Atman/Brahman and not shunya/void.  That represents sarvAtmabhAva. Atman
being AnandasvarUpa,  why not say   << *he or she is in  the manah-Ananda
 state >>.*

Regards

Chandramouli

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:53 PM sunil bhattacharjya <
skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> There was a slip of pen. Please read the last sentence as follows:
>
> * The Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his or her
> manah is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he or she
> is in  the manah-shunya state.*
>
> Best
> skb
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:35 PM sunil bhattacharjya <
> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sreenivasa Murthyji,
>>
>> Are you joking?
>>
>> In case you really got confused by reading my mail, let me assure you
>> that the upanishad talks about the Manah-Shunya state of the Jnani, who
>> reaches the state of Asamprajna Samadhi (or Nirvikalpa samadhi).
>>
>> Anyway, let me simplify it a bit. In the beginning of the Original
>> Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna told Arjuna at the very beginning of the
>> Original Bhagavad Gita  that what was there in the past or what would be
>> there in future is not there now and that implies   what is now is as good
>> as not there, i.e., the  Vyavaharika world is illusionary.  The
>> Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his or her manah
>> is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he or she is the
>> manah-shunya state.
>>
>> My 2 cents
>> skb
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:43 PM 'sreenivasa murthy' via advaitin <
>> advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Sri Sunil Bhattachariya,
>>>
>>>  Your 2cents coiin which you have offered is a KhOTA coin.
>>> When it is tested in the laboratary of Upanishads it will be found so.
>>> It is a useless one.
>>>
>>> ahamevEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-1
>>> AtmaivEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-2
>>> AtmA advaitaH || Mandukya mantra7
>>> Please study and these mantras with Sri Shankara's commentary
>>> and ponder over in depth.
>>> You yourself will realize that the statement of yours is  erroneous.
>>>
>>> Who is a Jivanmukta?
>>> Is he an entity?
>>> Have you enquired?
>>>
>>> With respectful pranams,
>>> Sreenivasa Murthy
>>>
>>> On Monday, 23 January, 2023 at 04:53:57 pm GMT, sunil bhattacharjya <
>>> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Akileshji and friends,
>>>
>>> There you are. The Jivanmukta achieves the *Manah-Shunya state*, and
>>> eventually gets liberated when he or she leaves the physical and the
>>> Sukshma bodies.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents
>>> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:08 AM Akilesh Ayyar <
>>> akilesh at siftingtothetruth.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’ll just note in this discussion that as far as Ramana Maharshi’s views
>>> — or rather my interpretation of them — the mind is ‘gone’ in the sense
>>> that it never existed. The whole egoic point of view is what sees both
>>> ignorance and the removal of ignorance, the mind ‘before’ the search and
>>> ‘after’ it. Asking whether the jnani’s mind continues after jnana is itself
>>> based in the wrong point of view; the question is founded on wrong
>>> assumptions. That is the point.
>>>
>>> Akilesh Ayyar
>>> Spiritual guidance - http://www.siftingtothetruth.com/
>>>
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